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Top Five Most Popular Purpose-built Home Mesh Approaches, Ranked: The Good, the Bad, and the Caveats

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When it comes to building a home mesh Wi-Fi system, you can pick an advanced approach using one of the five DIY options, or you can get a purpose-built (a.k.a. canned) system. This post includes the five most popular brands of the latter, ranking from the list recommended to the best.

Keep in mind, though, that all of the systems mentioned here will take care of getting you connected. What differentiates one from another is their hardware options (performance), ease of use, features, cost, and privacy.

By the end of this post, among other things, you will be able to determine which brand is the best to bring home, if at all.

Dong's note: I first published this post on March 24, 2021, and last updated it on August 7, 2024, with the latest information.

If you're new to the Wi-Fi system, I detailed that in this post on what a mesh is.

But the gist is that you use multiple Wi-Fi broadcasters together to form a single network. Use one as the primary unit (the router), and the rest works as satellite units that extend the router's network either via network cables (wired backhauling) or Wi-Fi (wireless backhauling).

Fronthaul vs. Backhaul

When you use multiple Wi-Fi broadcastersโ€”in a mesh network or a combo of a router and an extenderโ€”there are two types of connections: fronthaul and backhaul.

Fronthaul is the Wi-Fi signals broadcast outward for clients or the local area network (LAN) ports for wired devices. It's what we generally expect from a Wi-Fi broadcaster.

Backhaul (a.k.a backbone,) on the other hand, is the link between one satellite Wi-Fi broadcaster and another, which can be the network's primary router, a switch, or another satellite unit.

This link works behind the scenes to keep the hardware units together as a system. It also determines the ceiling bandwidth (and speed) of all devices connected to the particular broadcaster. It's the backbone of the system.

At the satellite/extender unit, the connection used for the backhaulโ€”a Wi-Fi link or a network portโ€”is often called the uplink. Generally, a Wi-Fi broadcaster might use one of its bands (2.4GHz, 5GHz, or 6GHz) or a network port for the uplink.

When a Wi-Fi band handles backhaul and fronthaul simultaneously, only half its bandwidth is available to either end. From the perspective of a connected client, that phenomenon is called signal loss.

A Wi-Fi connection between two direct parties occurs in a single band, using one fixed channel, at any given time. This principle applies to all existing Wi-Fi standards, up to Wi-Fi 6E.

When a Wi-Fi band functions solely for backhauling, it's called the dedicated backhaul. Often, that means no other band will do this job, though that depends on the hardware.

In a mesh system, only traditional Tri-band hardwareโ€”those with an additional 5GHz bandโ€”can have a dedicated backhaul band without ostracizing clients of the same band.

Generally, it's best to use network cables for backhaulingโ€”wired backhauling, which is an advantage of mesh hardware with network ports. In this case, a satellite broadcaster can use its entire Wi-Fi bandwidth for front-hauling.

In networking, network cables are always much better than wireless in speed and reliability.

That's the case with all of the canned ecosystems mentioned here. By the way, I'll add a brieft history of each with the time when their first hardware was released.

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5. The eero (Feb 2016): Ease-of-use trumps all, including consumers’ privacy

The Amazon eero Max 7 is available in a 3-pack, 2-pack, or a single router.
Popular home mesh brands: The Max 7 is the latest in Amazon's eero mesh family.

It's appropriate that we talk about the eeroโ€”all lowercaseโ€”first, for two reasons.

The first reason is that it's the pioneer in canned home mesh systems. In February 2016, eero, then a boutique networking startup in San Francisco, introduced a 3-pack Wi-Fi 5 namesake mesh of identical routers, and started what I called the home mesh movement. Soon after the eero's debut, almost all other networking vendors joined the mesh race, and the rest is history.

The second reason, unfortunately, is not as positive: over the years, the eero has grown to be the worst in my book by today's standard for a few reasons.

The eero's idea was quite revolutionary when first launched. It was the first app-operated networking hardware as a service and has remained that way. In return, it forces the users' network to be connected to eero at all timesโ€”and all that implies. In fact, when you pay for the hardware, you don't own it. You only buy the privilege of using it. It's always the vendor who decides how it functions. As a result advanced users will likely feel they are being held hostage when using an eero router.

Additionally, eero collects a lot of user information, so much so that, in my opinion, Amazon bought it in 2019, likely to take advantage of the user data for marketing purposes. Since then, thanks to Amazon's power, this mesh brand has been highly publicized with lots of falsehood and half truths.

Here's eero's lengthy Privacy Policy.

The worst thing about the eero, however, is the fact its hardware tends to be relatively low in specs and high in cost while having close to nothing in terms of free/basic features and network/Wi-Fi settings. The eero app constantly nags users to opt for the eero Plus paid subscription. And even with the paid features factored in, the eero hardware is generally behind what many other brands offer for free.

Amazon eero's Rating

5.6 out of 10
amazon eero
Hardware Options and Performance
6.5 out of 10
Design and Features
5 out of 10
Ease of Use
8 out of 10
Privacy and Value
3 out of 10

Pros

Easy to set up and use

Generally reliable with scalable Wi-Fi coverage

Eye-catching design

Cons

Lacking standard features and settings

No local management; vendor login account to work; heavy on user data collection; useful features require eero Plus subscription

Often middling-specced and overpriced


4. Netgear Orbi (Oct 2016): Dedicated wireless backhaul for a price

Netgear Orbi 970 Series (RBE973S) includes a router and two satellites
Popular home mesh brands: The Netgear Orbi 970 series is currently the most expensive home mesh system on the market.

In October 2016, Netgear launched its first Orbi set, the RBK50, as the answer to the eero. It has one novelty: the dedicated backhaul band.

Specifically, the hardware generally has an additional 5GHz band that works solely as the wireless backhauling. For this reason, Orbi typically uses tri-band or quad-band hardware with the 5GHz split in two.

So far, the only Orbi sets that do not use band-splitting are the dual-band Wi-Fi 5 RBK13 and the tri-band Wi-Fi 7 770 series. The latter might signify the brand's biggest change in terms of backhauling.

This approach was a great success with Wi-Fi 5 and Wi-Fi 6 for homes that can't have network cables (for wired backhauling.) Free from having to be compatible with clients, this dedicated backhaul band, often the upper portion of the 5GHz frequency, can be engineered to have great range and fast speed.

However, the always-backhaul-dedicated band has its issue: even when you use wired backhauling, this 5GHz band is still not available to clients, making the hardware more expensive than necessary. And Netgear's Orbis are known to be pricey, sometimes even outrageously so.

Netgear and your privacy

Registering the hardware with a login account with the vendor generally translates into privacy risks.

Here's Netgear's Privacy Policy.

Managing your home network via a third party is generally not a good idea, but privacy is a matter of degree. Data collection and handling vary vendor by vendor.

In terms of ease of use and features, all Orbi hardware comes with a web user interface that allows for local management. However, if you want convenience and remote access, you need to opt for the Orbi mobile app, which requires a login account with Netgear. The app is also needed for the add-on premium that allows for online protection, parental controls, and other valuable features.

Netgear Orbi's Rating

7.3 out of 10
Orbi RBK852 New
Hardware Options and Performance
7 out of 10
Design and Features
7.5 out of 10
Ease of Use
7.5 out of 10
Privacy and Value
7 out of 10

Pros

Fast, reliable Wi-Fi with extensive coverage

Full web interface with all standard settings and features

Useful, well-designed mobile app

Wi-Fi 6 versions support WAN Link Aggregation and often have Multi-Gig support

Cons

High cost

No 160MHz channel support on the 5GHz band in Wi-Fi 6/6E hardware, limited Wi-Fi customization

No cross-Wi-Fi standard hardware compatibility

Bulky design

Mobile app and security/Parental Controls features require a login account


TP-Link Deco BE85 Wi-Fi 7 Mesh System on table
Popular home mesh brands: The TP-Link BE85 is the latest Deco variant and the first on the market to feature Wi-Fi 7.

TP-Link introduced its first Deco set, the Deco M5, in April 2017 as a better alternative to the eero. While also app-operated via the Deco app with a login account, hence the privacy concerns, TP-Link is a networking company and not a big data one like the case of Amazon.

TP-Link and your privacy

Having to sign in with an account generally means your hardware connects to the vendor at all times, which translates into inherent privacy risks.

On this matter, the China-origin networking company, among other things, insists that it's a "global multinational group" and offers this assurance:

"TP-Link takes privacy seriously and complies with U.S. policies to protect consumers."

TP-Link's Privacy Policy page.

Managing your home network via a third party is never a good idea. Privacy is a matter of degree. Data collection and handling vary vendor by vendor.

Additionally, over the years, the Deco app has grown to offer close to everything a standard router (such as TP-Link's Archer lineup) has to offer.

The Deco brand also has a premium add-on called HomeShield Pro that has advanced online protection and in-depth parental controls (among other things). However, in most cases, consumers get everything they need from a typical network without paying for a subscription.

Finally, the Deco brand has lots of hardware options, often with variants made specifically for certain retailers or regions, that will meet everyone's needs in terms of performance grades. But the vast number of hardware variants can be a headache to deal with.

TP-Link Deco's Rating

7.5 out of 10
TP-Link Deco BE85 Wi-Fi 7 Mesh System front on table
Hardware Options and Performance
9 out of 10
Design and Features
7 out of 10
Ease of Use
8 out of 10
Privacy and Value
6 out of 10

Pros

Affordable with lots of hardware options

Easy-to-use mobile app

Reliable Wi-Fi coverage

Good-looking

Cons

Spartan Wi-Fi customization, network settings, and features

Limited port-related features

App and login account required, no real web user interface

Confusing HomeShield/HomeCare online protection and Parental Control features


2. Linksys Velop Intelligent Mesh (Jan 2017): The all-new “Pain-free” approach

Linksys Velop Pro 7
Popular home mesh brands: The Velop Pro 7 is part of Linksys's new "pain-free" approach.

Linksys's first canned mesh was the Velop (model WHW0303), which was released in January 2017 to answer the Orbi and the eero. From then until early 2024, Linksys's Velop was very similar to Netgear's Orbi, with one exception: it has no dedicated backhaul band.

And then, during this time, Linksys (at times owned by Belkin and then Foxconn) did the same thing in terms of app coercion. There's a local web interface, but users are encouraged to use the Linksys Velop app.

However, in early 2024, with the release of the Micro 6, Linksys Velop has taken a new "pain-free" direction, which aims to give consumers all that they want from the hardware for free. Specifically, users can start using a (new) Linksys Velop system without using an app or the web user interface. But if they want to use either or both, you can, too, and in that case, you can either work locally or have the option to link with a Linksys account. The company says it has no intention or interest in collecting user information. Finally, there's no add-on premium to worry about.

Linksys's simple and clear Privacy Pledge.

Still, in terms of features and settings, the Velop band is similar to the Deco or Orbi above, and it's far inferior to what Asus's AiMesh (below) has to offer.

Linksys Velop Smart Wi-Fi's Rating

7.9 out of 10
Linksys Velop Pro 7 MBE7003 Top
Hardware Options and Performance
7 out of 10
Design and Features
8.5 out of 10
Ease of Use
8 out of 10
Privacy and Value
8 out of 10

Pros

Generally reliable Wi-Fi with good coverage; pain-free, no-nonsense approach (starting early 2024)

Helpful mobile app, full web interface, optional vendor-assisted management

Flexible wired/wireless backhaul

Cons

Modest hardware specs, lack of innovation in features and performance, expensive

No Dual-WAN, Link Aggregation, or VPN; no setting backup/restore; no pre-synced hardware


1. Asus’s AiMesh/ZenWiFi/ExpertWifi (Feb 2018): The most robust (and potentially daunting) home mesh option

The Asus ZenWiFi BQ16 Pro includes a network cable
Popular home mesh brands: The ZenWiFi BQ16 Pro is the latest in Asus's AiMesh hardware

Asus introduced the AiMesh option as an add-on feature via firmware update in February 2018, together with the release of the RT-AC86U.

Since then, this has been one of the most significant home mesh developments, thanks to its versatility: almost any AiMesh-enabled Asus router can work as the primary mesh unit or a satellite. As a result, over the years, there have been countless possible mesh combos.

As though that weren't enough, in early 2020, Asus introduced the ZenWiFi family, which is a purpose-built mesh that's based on AiMesh. And then, in late 2023, it unveiled the ExpertWiFi business lineup that's also based on the same AiMesh feature.

All this makes AiMesh the most comprehensive mesh approach hardware-wise: technically, you can use all of the hardware mentioned above together to build a mesh system. It's also the only approach that bridges home mesh and business mesh.

In terms of features and settings, all AiMesh-based systems have the same benefits as Asus's standalone router, meaning you'll get everything you'd want from a home/SMB router and likely even more. Asus doesn't have any add-on premium like the case of Amazon eero, Netgear Orbi, or TP-Link Decoโ€”all of its features are available for free for the life of the hardware.

AiMesh isn't perfect. It can be daunting to deal with, considering the vast possibilities in hardware combos and the number of features and settings. Still, ZenWiFi and ExpertWiFi are the best home mesh and excellent SMB mesh options, respectively, for savvy users who want to build their network to the max without needing an IT professional.

Asus AiMesh's Rating

8.5 out of 10
Asus ExpertWiFi hardware
Hardware Options and Performance
9.5 out of 10
Design and Features
9 out of 10
Ease of Use
6.5 out of 10
Privacy and Value
9 out of 10

Pros

The most flexible way to build a robust, scalable home Wi-Fi mesh system

Excellent performance, top-notch feature set

Built-in online protection

No vendor login is required, or other privacy risks

Comparatively affordable

Cons

Certain router combos can be buggy or have issues with new major firmware releases.

Mixing hardware of different Wi-Fi tiers, standards, or number of bands could be problematic


The takeaway

Those mentioned here are all popular purpose-built home mesh systems in the market. There are others, but chances are they are not as significant, despite the fact some are actually quite famous, like Google's Nest Pro.

You'll note that none of the brands above will give you everything. Ultimately, you must choose between ease of use, performance, features, and privacy. Find a combo you can tolerate and go with it.

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68 thoughts on “Top Five Most Popular Purpose-built Home Mesh Approaches, Ranked: The Good, the Bad, and the Caveats”

  1. I’ve had an ongoing issue with many mesh systems I’ve tried – from Eero, Google, Netgear ORBI (even the supposed top-of-line RBKE963).
    Basically, I am told I may have “too many” IoT devices (wall switches, plugs, cameras, etc.) on my network.
    I have over 200 2.4GHz devices (most are low-bandwidth, like plugs), ~50 5GHz, and the rest are LAN.
    As you review systems like this, especially the Mesh ones, it’d be helpful to note their anticipated limits (which are becoming more commonly published), as well as what you might do to test them.

    Same for what features (besides accounts) they require. For example, I just returned a new Eero 6E system because I use my own DHCP server and the Eero required using theirs (except in Bridge mode, which sorta defeats the point). Same with the TP-Link XE200.

    Even with the ORBI RBKE963, they can’t get it to work with my network. This, after eight months of technical conversations – beyond their Level 2, 3, 4, to a Wifi engineer who was supposedly liaising with Qualcomm (chip maker) to try to figure out my issues.
    (I think most of my issues are due to their “beamforming” and similar technologies that can’t be turned off in newer ORBI models – didn’t have problems with the old RBR50.)

    I’m now waiting to try the Asus XT12, Tenda EX12 or MX12, ARRIS SURFboard mAX Pro W133, Linksys Atlas Max 6E, Motorola Q14 Wi-Fi 6E Mesh System, trying the Ubiquiti soon, and some others, to see which allow me using my own DHCP server and support my ~300 MAC addresses.

    By way of perspective, house first floor is 58’x32′, second floor is smaller. So we’re not talking a huge place. The problem is I need the main router by one corner, so I often end up thinking I need two satellites (one middle second floor, one further away in garage to cover front-of-house cameras).

    Any thoughts on which can handle my quantity of devices?

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    • Your problem will NEVER be solved by how you currently see things, Bruce. You make too many assumptions based on false information and marketing hype and then keep looking for stuff that doesn’t exist. Check out this post, read it *carefully*, and you’ll find the solution.

      Note that the number of devices you have is also very high and the default IP pool of your router might have already run out. You might need to use a double NAT to increase it.

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    • The Synology routers allow you to offer larger than the standard 255 client addresses per pool if you use the correctly subnetted addresses.

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    • Late reply, you probably have looked into something like a separate WiFi channel for IoT, so the security settings and IP range is separated for things like bulbs and plugs, sensors and devices.

      Then an additional 2.4ghz and 5/6ghz channel to separate older devices from newer ones that can access 40/80/160mhz channels.

      The problem comes from having a single wifi channel for 100+ devices – very few devices need to discover or broadcast to each other, so the isolation / filtering of channels (IoT/Guest/2.4/5ghz) tends to help add more devices to the network. And separates IP or set up security access or filtering.

      Plus, you can tweak the radio output strength of each mesh to keep clients from hogging the network.

      This is far more advanced, but the unifi series can handles most of this configuration. Itโ€™s more complicated on the other mesh where you canโ€™t adjust the channels without AI/roaming algorithms switching bandwidth, etc.

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  2. Hi Dong,

    I did disable the Motorola MG8702 combo unit and using it as a straight up modem, it’s working fine like that. I purchased two Asus RT-AX92U (in a two-pack configuration) and I’m using them as a whole house mesh system and the coverage is great. No complaints and a huge THANK YOU to you Dong for steering me in the correct direction.

    Barry

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  3. Hi anh Dong,

    Em cรณ mแป™t vร i cรขu hแปi liรชn quan ฤ‘แบฟn setup router/wifi cho nhร  cแปงa em. Hi vแปng anh cรณ thแปƒ hแป— trแปฃ em ฤ‘ฦฐแปฃc phแบงn nร o ฤ‘รณ. Nhร  hiแป‡n tแบกi setup nhฦฐ sau:

    1. Nhร  em khoแบฃng 130m2/tแบงng x 3 tแบงng xรขy bแบฑng tฦฐแปng gแบกch, bao gแป“m 5 phรฒng (cแบฃ phรฒng khรกch/bแบฟp/ngแปง), nhร  em cรณ khoแบฃng 4 TVs, 8 ฤ‘iแป‡n thoแบกi, khoแบฃng 7-8 thiแบฟt bแป‹ thรดng minh.
    2. Hiแป‡n tแบกi em ฤ‘ang setup cรกc router nhร  em nhฦฐ sau:
    – Modem ISP: chแบฟ ฤ‘แป™ router, tแบฏt wifi broadcast, hiแป‡n tแบกi cรณ 4 ports em ฤ‘ang dรนng lร m switch ฤ‘แปƒ kแบฟt nแป‘i ฤ‘แบฟn 2 routers: 1. asus rt-ac3200u vร  2. netgear nighthawk R7000
    – Nighthawk R7000: hiแป‡n tแบกi em ฤ‘ang ฤ‘แปƒ tแบงng 1 chแบฟ ฤ‘แป™ router cแบฏm dรขy LAN tแปซ modem isp vร o cแป•ng WAN cแปงa router nร y vร  broadcast wifi network tรชn nhฦฐ modem (tแบงng 1 em dรนng khรก แป•n ฤ‘แป‹nh, รญt sแบฃy ra vแบฅn ฤ‘แป)
    – Asus RT-3200U: hiแป‡n tแบกi em ฤ‘แปƒ แปŸ tแบงng 2, cลฉng setup nhฦฐ Nighthawk R7000 nhฦฐ trรชn, dรขy LAN tแปซ modem isp cแบฏm trแปฑc tiแบฟp vร o cรดng WAN, tรชn wifi nhฦฐ tรชn modem (tรชn wifi thแปฉ 2)
    – Nighthawk EX7000: hiแป‡n tแบกi em ฤ‘แบทt tแบงng 3 ฤ‘แปƒ extend wifi network tแปซ Asus router, hiแป‡n tแบกi em ฤ‘ang gแบทp rแบฅt nhiแปu vแบฅn ฤ‘แป vแป›i mแบกng tแบกi tแบงng 3, cรกi repeater nร y thi thoแบฃng treo khรดng vร o ฤ‘ฦฐแปฃc, restart thรฌ work ฤ‘ฦฐแปฃc khoแบฃng vร i ngร y lแบกi treo, internet chแบญm vร  cรณ thแปƒ k vร o ฤ‘ฦฐแปฃc.

    Em ฤ‘ang tรฌm cรกch ฤ‘แปƒ nรขng cแบฅp hแป‡ thแป‘ng mแบกng nhร  em, em ฤ‘ang suy nghฤฉ nรขng lรชn mesh wifi ฤ‘แปƒ dรนng cho แป•n ฤ‘แป‹nh, hoแบทc quy hoแบกch lแบกi hแป‡ thแป‘ng mแบกng hiแป‡n tแบกi. Nแบฟu anh cรณ thแปi gian anh tฦฐ vแบฅn giรบp em nรชn lร m nhฦฐ nร o.

    Em cแบฃm ฦกn anh.

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  4. Hi Dong,

    What is the difference between having 3 identical access points with a wired back bone and a mesh network with a wired back bone?

    I used to have multiple access points and I used to try and keep the channels apart, but I have noticed that with my new ASUS XT8s with a wired backbone all the nodes are using the same channel! I donโ€™t get it!

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  5. Hi anh ฤรดng. Em khรดng biแบฟt lร  anh cรณ thแปƒ nรณi tiแบฟng Viแป‡t ฤ‘ฦฐแปฃc nhiแปu hoแบทc cรณ thแปƒ ฤ‘แปc hiแปƒu tiแบฟng Viแป‡t ฤ‘ฦฐแปฃc khรดng?

    Em cรณ thแปƒ hแปi anh 1 chรบt vแป loแบกi Deco X60 ฤ‘ฦฐแปฃc khรดng? Vรฌ hiแป‡n tแบกi nhร  em ฤ‘ang dรนng Giga plan vร  Deco M9 (3 packs).

    Sฦก ฤ‘แป“ hiแป‡n tแบกi cแปงa em lร  Modem Frontier ==> Switch 5 port ==> Deco M9 (wired). Em cรณ ฤ‘i dรขy ra cho main router vร  1 dรขy cho cแปฅc extend cแปงa M9.

    Giแป thรฌ em muแป‘n upgrade lรชn Deco X60 cho wifi 6, theo anh thรฌ nรณ cรณ ฤ‘รกng ฤ‘แปƒ upgrade khรดng? Hoแบทc lร  em nรชn mua mesh cแปงa Orbi.

    Hiแป‡n tแบกi thรฌ em ฤ‘ang dรนng M9 cho cรดng viแป‡c, gaming, vร  nhร  em thรฌ tแบงm 20 thiแบฟt bแป‹ khi cao ฤ‘iแปƒm.

    Cแบฃm ฦกn anh.

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    • Theo sฦก ฤ‘แป“ thรฌ cรกch cร i ฤ‘แบทt hiแป‡n thแปi lร  khรดng แป•n, Bao. ฤรบng thรฌ lร : Modem -> Deco router -> Switch -> Deco vแป‡ tinh / cรกch thiแบฟt bแป‹ khรกc . (Xem thรชm แปŸ ฤ‘รขy.) Nแบฟu nhร  mรฌnh ฤ‘รฃ cรณ dรขy cรกp mแบกng (vร  switch) rแป“i, thรฌ nรชn dรนng bแป™ Asus XD4 hoแบทc mแป™t bแป™ dual-band tฦฐฦกng tแปฑ. Deco X60 cลฉng แป•n nhฦฐng rแบฅt thiแบฟu cรกc tรนy chแปn hoแบทc cรกc ฤ‘แบทc tรญnh khรกc. Khรดng nรชn dรนng tri-band. ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • Cแบฃm ฦกn anh ฤ‘รฃ trแบฃ lแปi thแบฏc mแบฏc cแปงa em.

        Nแบฟu theo sฦก ฤ‘แป“ cแปงa anh thรฌ em phแบฃi tรญnh toรกn ฤ‘i lแบกi dรขy cรกp mแบกng cho nhร . Vแบญy nรชn theo em thแบฅy em cรณ thแปƒ tแบญn dแปฅng ฤ‘ฦฐแปฃc Modem 4 port cแปงa nhร  mแบกng.

        Anh nghฤฉ thแบฟ nร o nแบฟu em chia trรชn Modem cแปงa Frontier theo sฦก ฤ‘แป“ nhฦฐ thแบฟ nร y แบก:
        Port 1 -> Main router
        Port 2 -> Switch
        Switch -> Deco vแป‡ tinh

        Vรฌ hiแป‡n tแบกi em ฤ‘ang dรนng port cแปงa main router Deco ฤ‘แปƒ ฤ‘i thแบณng vร o PC. Nรชn nแบฟu theo sฦก ฤ‘แป“ cแปงa anh thรฌ cรณ vแบป rแบฅt khรณ ฤ‘แปƒ em cรณ thแปƒ ฤ‘i lแบกi toร n bแป™ dรขy cรกp mแบกng trong nhร .

        Em ฤ‘ang dแปฑ tรญnh upgrade X60 vรฌ thแบฅy Costco ฤ‘ang cรณ ฤ‘แปฃt sale cho nรณ anh แบก. Nแบฟu theo anh review thรฌ em cลฉng ฤ‘ang phรขn vรขn vแป›i Asus ฤ‘รขy :'(

        Cแบฃm ฦกn anh.

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        • Nhฦฐ vแบญy thรฌ cรกi “modem” trong trฦฐแปng hแปฃp nร y khรดng phแบฃi lร  modem, mร  lร  mแป™t cรกi gateway.(Xem thรชm แปŸ ฤ‘รขy). Trong trฦฐแปng hแปฃp nร y thรฌ nรชn chuyแปƒn gateway sang Bridge Mode hoแบทc chuyแปƒn X60, hoแบทc mแป™t bแป™ Wi-Fi mแป›i, sang chแบฟ ฤ‘แป™ AP. (Xem thรชm แปŸ ฤ‘รขy.)

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          • Cรณ vแบป khรก phแปฉc tแบกp nแบฟu nhฦฐ em dรนng thรชm switch ฤ‘แปƒ cแบฏm trแปฑc tiแบฟp vร o modem.

            Anh cรณ nghฤฉ Modem sแบฝ chแป‹u tแบฃi tแป‘t nแบฟu nhฦฐ em dรนng trแปฑc tiแบฟp 4 port cแปงa modem cho X60 (main rounter and setterline).

            Nhร  em lร  single house tแบงm 2500 sqt nรชn em thiแบฟt nghฤฉ lร  nรชn dรนng mesh wifi vร  X60 thรฌ chแป‰ cรณ 2 port (wan vร  lan). Vรฌ ฤ‘a phแบงn lร  phone vร  smart tv, camera, themorstat. Chแป‰ cรณ 1 PC duy nhแบฅt ฤ‘แปƒ em control tแบฅt cแบฃ cรกc thiแบฟt bแป‹ trong nhร .

            Vแบญy theo anh nghฤฉ, em cรณ nรชn ฤ‘แปƒ thรชm switch ฤ‘แปƒ giแบฃm tแบฃi cho modem hay lร  khรดng cแบงn switch vร  ฤ‘แปƒ modem tแปฑ cรขn bแบฑng cho tแบฅt cแบฃ cรกc thiแบฟt bแป‹.

            1 sฦก ฤ‘แป“ nแปฏa cแปงa em lร  nhฦฐ nร y:
            Internet -> Modem
            Port 1 (modem) -> X60 main router -> PC
            Port 2 (modem) -> X60 set (1)
            Port 3 (modem) -> X60 set (2)

            Cแบฃm ฦกn anh.

  6. Very helpful article. I have the original Linksys Velop triband mesh with the parent and 3 children in a 3600sf home (2500 sf on the main level and the rest upstairs). I have 1gig speed internet with Comcast. We have a lot of devices – multiple computers, 20+ cams (mix of Arlo and Abode), a couple of tablets, many Amazon Alexa devices and many TPlink plugs, switches and bulbs. While the Velop had issues early on they all seem to be ironed out and I get very good Wi-Fi. My only issue is when we have a power interruption. Most times all nodes reconnect, but on occasion one particular node will not reconnect (usually when I am on vacation) without unplugging and plugging back in. So I am basically pleased with the system. Is there any reason to upgrade the system (Wi-Fi 6??) or should I just leave well enough alone? Thanks for all of the information you provide. It is much appreciated.

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  7. Hi Dong
    Its refreshing to see reviews from someone who seems to know these products technically as opposed to an IT journalist

    Re the Highthawk you say “Most importantly, it doesnโ€™t come with a permanent dedicated backhaul โ€” itโ€™s excellent for wired backhaul.” I have a home thats wired so does this mean the Nighthawk is a good choice for me? I also note you didn’t think its performance was great, should i werry about this much?

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  8. Hi Dong,

    Great posts. I live in a 3800 sq foot single family home with three floors built in 1990, basement and two stories. My Motorola MG 8702 combo modem/router, purchased January 2021, is located in the far side corner of the house in my office and I cannot move it. The house is not wired for internet use and I use Comcast as my ISP provider. The wifi coverage is weak to non-existent in corners of the house. I have tried Netgear extenders, the latest was the 7500, all without success even though it was placed within 35 feet from the router. I completely agree that extenders are not a solution.

    Any recommendations on a mesh system? Cost is not a huge factor.

    Thanks for all you do to help us out.

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      • Thanks Dong, Iโ€™ll give the 2-pack Asus RT-AX92U a try. I am looking for a mesh system that will serve me well now and grow in the future and hopefully the AX92U can fill that need. Iโ€™m in the process of converting the house to become โ€œsmartโ€ and adding more smart devices all the time.

        I presume I will need to convert the Motorola combo unit to become just a modem and disable the routing capabilities? do you believe the Motorola combo unit acting as just a modem will be sufficient to handle all of the Asus requirements?

        I read you โ€œplacementโ€ article and will try to comply as much as possible but the main router must remain in my office at one end of the house as thatโ€™s where the Comcast cable is installed.

        Is there anything else I need to know before moving forward with the purchase?

        Thanks again for your help.

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        • Barry, a year removed from your post what did you end up doing?

          I hope you definetly disabled the wifi combo part on your modem.

          Budget not an option must be nice. Pay or do it yourself to have Cat 6e wired to the other nodes of a mesh system and get them most out of your Gig service from Comcast.

          Taz

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  9. Thanks for the frank input Dong. I’ll have to try some more smooze and hopefully she won’t respond “Negative Ghostrider!” Thanks again.

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  10. Hi Dong,

    I greatly appreciate what is clearly a labor of love as reflected by your website and youโ€™re a tremendous fount of knowledge. Thank you.

    Iโ€™m considering a WiFi 6-type mesh setup as we donโ€™t have any high-quality ethernet wiring installers available in our location; and Iโ€™m certainly not going to start punching arbitrary holes in walls to string it myself (sheโ€™ll kill me!). Soโ€ฆ

    I like the idea of the Orbi RBK853 or 854 but in checking myriad reviews it seems to work out either really well or quite poorly, in terms of long-term, consistent signal reliability at range. In addition, AiMesh seems to be kind of hit-or-miss for more than a few as well. Given this, would we be better served by a RAX200 and a โ€˜mesh-likeโ€™ extender such as the EX8000 or EAX80?

    Thanks in advance for your thoughts and guidance and all you do in providing your readers with all the amazing content!

    Greg

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  11. HI Dong,

    Thank you for your realy helpfull post. I have a question. I live in a concrete/stone house with 3 floors. I want to set up a mesh network for the whole house. In the hallway I will connect the “mesh router” next to my ISP modem. To reach the back of the garden, about 35 meters removed from the ISP modem, I want to place the first satellite in my living room, between the garden and the hallway. This satellite will be wired.

    On the 2nd floor I want to place another satellite, non-wired. My ISP download speed is 600mb/40mb.

    I want to try and stay with a 3pack for now. In the future I would like to replace my excisting (wired)network set-up on the attic.

    Because of the wired/non wired set-up I would like to know what you would recommend.

    Kind regards from the Netherlands

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  12. Hello, Dong.

    I read your recent review of Eero where you say you don’t recommend it. I also read the 6/15 article on mesh products, where you talk about pros and cons. I’m hoping you might give me an outright recommendation or two.

    Q: What would you recommend for a large house (stucco walls) with WIRED backhaul?

    I agree: I don’t trust Amazon vis-a-vis privacy … I tend to trust Google more.

    I think I want WiFi 6 (or even 6E).

    Ease of setup is secondary.

    Would be a plus to have a built-in VPN like my current TP-Link AC2300.

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  13. Hi Dong
    The more I know, the more I realise I donโ€™t knowโ€ฆ..however I have established from reading your material and othersโ€™ (for real time range testing) that I need 4 to 5 broadcasters, each separated about 30 to 45 ft apart with 2 or more brick walls between them; but all connected via cat5e wiring/GB switches, except one. Each broadcaster/node ideally has a range of 2500 sq.ft. (Or more practically speaking ~25ft radius from node.
    The above knocks a lot of the mesh units off the perch (so to speak), leaving the longer range stuff like: orbi, Deco, D-Link (the Asus units that have a good range are prohibitively expensive when 4 to 5 units are needed).
    So hereโ€™s my question. Out of the following short list:
    – Netgear RBK50 AC3000 (25 ft radius range);
    – Velos (25 ft radius range), how would you rate them in terms of:
    – roaming reliability for speeds <100Mbps, seamlessly switching between nodes;
    – use of wired backhaul for most, but also one node possibly using a PowerPoint link;
    – reliability over several or more years?
    Iโ€™m not that fussed about speedโ€ฆ..happy with 100 Mbps. Also run a NAS, but that works fine just off the wired network.

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  14. Hi Dong
    Been looking at Apple Linksys Velos mesh wifi sets AC6600 tri band released late 2020. But, it looks like these are the 4 year old original sets revamped. They have the Ethernet etc cables coming out of the bottom corner. Do you know anything about these mesh sets? Your review doesnโ€™t appear to cover these.

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  15. Dong,

    I was curious of your thoughts on using MoCA as a wired backhaul for a dual-band mesh system vs using a Tri-Band Mesh system with a dedicated backhaul channel. For my specific case, my main router is on the middle level of a three level home on one side due to where service comes in. The whole house is wired for cable into each room but I am currently using DSL provider due to cost effectiveness of the speed/service. I understand MoCA is inferior to a wired CAT 5e/6 backhaul, but is it in any way better or comparable to just using Tri-band Mesh system?

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  16. Hi Dong
    Very informative. I like your coverage about privacy and being locked into vendor cloud, etc. services, which helped me remove some brands from the short list for a new mesh system.
    Looked at asus mesh units, but when reading through the manual, I found it hard the read past all the typoโ€™s and grammatical errorsโ€ฆโ€ฆit was quite riddled with errors. That made me think if thatโ€™s all asus cares about their user manual, whatโ€™s the software going to be like.
    Your comment about software updates that break setups that work also rings alarm bells for me.
    So based on the two above points, Iโ€™m not to keen to buy into those issues.
    Also looked at Netgear, who donโ€™t seem to suffer from these issues. So keen to see your full review of the MK8x.

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    • Look into the firmware problems that Netgear has been having for the last few years. The Netgear community forum is a good place to start.

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    • Asus is a Taiwanese company so Engish is definitely not their forte, Rudi. The issue with firmware happens in all vendors. It happens more with Asus, if so, likely because Asus releases firmware updates more frequently.

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      • The difference that I found between Netgear and Asus firmware was that Netgear forced me to take the next firmware version, whether it worked well or not. With Asus, there’s always a working firmware version that you can revert to. Big difference…with the Netgear Orbi’s that I had, when I got a bad firmware release (too frequent), I was stuck with it until the next release. Asus is much better about arming the user with the tools to make things work.

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      • I bought an RT-AX89X about 16 months ago for WiFi 6 and for the latest and greatest. Itโ€™s been an unpleasant ride of regularly dropped connections, etc. However, in July 2021 it started to become pretty stable. They screwed things up a couple of times since then, but as of now, itโ€™s working perfectly (as far as I can tell) and performance is excellent. Despite the previous headaches, Iโ€™m glad I purchased this beast especially now that WiFi 6 products (like new Macs) are being released. I was planning to add an AI mesh router, but the single router seems to be providing all the coverage I need in my 2000 sqโ€™ house plus large garage. Signal in grounds outside and around the property are very good as well. The multiple 1G ports as well as the pair of 10G ports put this router in a class by itself.

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        • Your experience is about right, Thomas. I had a better one but mostly because I took into account that the earlier firmware versions were buggy. Thanks for sharing! ๐Ÿ™‚

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  17. My next mesh is Synology, both units, simply because I’ve never heard of them and they’re not any of the big gorillas, so to speak. Write-ups from Dong are great and that’s good enough for me. My Portal mesh has served well for 5 plus years but I’m on to the next.

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  18. You know what? You should look up the eero Pro, and you’ll find that the eero Pro 6 is simply the next tri-band version of the eero, with wifi-6 added. So your statement that the eero Pro 6 is the first eero tri-band router is simply not true. The eero Pro 6 also has more up-to-date hardware, and is generally more capable than prior models. But that’s pretty much okay, you have most of the rest right. The accent is on ease of installation and use. I find the performance to be fine, not exciting, but fine. If you just want to use your network, and not spend time fiddling with it, then the eero is a fine choice. It will serve user needs with little attention.

    Catching eeros on sale is the way to buy them…they are on sale occasionally, and the bundles go on sale as well. I got two eero pro 6’s on Amazon during the last holiday season for about $320, not a bad price.

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    • You’re, right, Roger. For some reason I got confused between Pro and Wi-Fi 6, etc. Gonna correct it. Thanks.

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  19. What would be the best performance (fastest connection speeds) option to cover a 3000sq home and 1/2 acre of land, if my only option is a wireless backhaul? From what I can tell it seems that Velop would be the best, but I’ve always had TP-Link routers….

    Usage patterns are lots of streaming (3 users), 30+ smart devices, full time at home office, and a teenager doing virtual learning (covid times).

    Router is currently upstairs, gaming systems in basement 35 feet from router, and I often sit outside with laptop to work.

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  20. Hi Dong,

    I’ve got an Arris TG3452A router/modem from my ISP that doesn’t seem to be able to fully cover our 2k sq ft house (weak signal at the opposite end of the house). Our house is prewired with Cat 5e cable, so I was hoping to use that and a switch to connect the router and a mesh system to improve the wifi coverage. I don’t have much technical experience, so I am looking for some guidance on how to best achieve this – replace router/modem with full mesh system or add on to it. If there is a system that is relatively easy to setup/use that would be great. For what it’s worth, our internet comes into the router/modem by cable, so I would have to consider that as well I suppose. Also, I was hoping to use PoE, to the extent possible, as it would make it easier to locate the devices based on the cat 5e outlets.

    Any guidance would be appreciated.

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  21. Hey Dong, great post. My Orbi Rbk50 router just died after 4 years. I have gigabit and Iโ€™m looking for full wireless with no backhaul for about a 2500 sq foot property with outdoor cameras. Orbi served me well but stuttered at times. Looking to spend around 300 plus tax. I like the idea of wifi6 and tri band future proofing. Any suggestions.

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  22. 2 Costco specials- which to choose:
    Velox AX4200 2pack for $229 or netgear MX63 3pack for $200?
    The house isnโ€™t big enough that I really Need additional units and I would prefer to go wired back haul.
    Recommendation?

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    • Your call, Jim. Either will do with wired backhaul. If you’re sure 2 are enough, though, go with the Linksys.

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  23. Dong, I see you mention AiMesh as a versatile system for mixing and matching ASUSโ€™s line. Is TP-Linkโ€™s OneMesh comparable?

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      • Thank you for the response Dong!

        I have a wired backhaul set up too. they are very similar except the xt8 has usb port.

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        • Sure, Jeremy. If you haven’t gotten one yet, with a wired setup, I’d recommend a dual-band set. More here. But the TP-Link will work out fine, and yes, an Asus set will give you a lot more features, including those relating to the USB port.

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          • i’ve got my place fully wired up actually.

            Which would you go for within the price range of a pair of xt8?

            it’s a new place so i’d like to “future proof” it if possible ๐Ÿ™‚

            Thanks again Dong!

          • I don’t keep tabs on the pricing, Jeremy. But the post I linked in the previous reply will help.

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