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When Netgear first announced the Orbi AX4200โa.k.a the RBK750 series available as RBK752 (2-pack) or RBK753 (3-pack)โI assumed it was the lesser version of the flagship Orbi AX6000 (RBK852). And on the surface of it, I was right.
Looking deeper, it's a different story. There's a lot more to love in this new and well-balanced mesh Wi-Fi system. The fact it's significantly more affordable alone means many can experience it. Most importantly, chances are it delivers the same experience you'd get from the RBK852 anyway.
Rumor has that Netgear will release the Orbi RBK760 series at some point which has the support for 160MHz on the fronthaul band to supposedly deliver faster performance. Even if that's the case, this Orbi RBK750 series will remain the normโit represents true sustained Wi-Fi rates you'll get from any Wi-Fi 6 Orbi set.
So, suppose you live in a large property with a sub-Gigabit Internet connection. In that case, this 2-pack full-wireless mesh is an excellent buy, especially considering its current cost of $400 ( 2-pack) or $515 ( 3-pack).
If you have wired your home, though, its direct rival, the Linksys Velop MX4200, is probably a better choice. Or you can get any of the dual-band sets in this list of top Wi-Fi 6 mesh systems.
Netgear Orbi AX4200 (RBK752): A well-rounded wireless mesh for a large home
It's impossible to look at the RBK752 without thinking of its older and beefier cousin RBK852. That's because the two are almost the same. They share the same mobile app, web interface, settings, features, and physical designโwith the former being a tad smaller.
The hardware of the Orbi RBK852 and RBK752 work interchangeably. So you can use an RBR850 router with an RBS750 satellite, or vice versa. They are also both not backward compatible with Wi-Fi 5 Orbi hardware.
(By the way, if you wonder what each Orbi model number means, I explained that in this post about different home mesh brands.)
That said, this review is somewhat of a supplement to my take on the Orbi AX6000. It's a good idea that you check out that one first.
Netgear Wi-Fi 6 Orbi hardware specifications: RBK752 vs. RBK852
As you'll note on the table below, the RBK752 is slightly smaller, lighter, and doesn't come with a 2.5Gbps WAN port. It also has one LAN port fewer in both the router and satellite unit.
Both share the same WAN Link Aggregation feature, where you can combine the WAN and LAN1 ports into a single 2Gbps WAN connection. This Link Aggregation feature is excellent when you use a supported modem and a faster-than-Gigabit Internet connection.
| Router (RBR750) | Satellite (RBS750) | Router (RBR850) | Satellite (RBS850) | |
| Dimensions | 9.1 x 7.2 x 2.8 in (23.11 x 18.28 x 7.11 cm) | 9.1 x 7.2 x 2.8 in (23.11 x 18.28 x 7.11 cm) | 10 x 7.5 x 2.8 in (24.5 x 19.05 x 7.11 cm) | 10 x 7.5 x 2.8 in (24.5 x 19.05 x 7.11 cm) |
| Weight (each unit) | 1.9 lbs (862 g) | 1.9 lbs (862 g) | 2.86 lbs (1.3 kg) | 2.86 lbs (1.3 kg) |
| Wi-Fi Specs | Tri-band AX4200 | Tri-band AX4200 | Tri-band AX6000 | Tri-band AX6000 |
| 5GHz-1 Band | 2x2: Up to 1200Mbp | 2x2: Up to 1200Mbp | 4x4: Up to 2400Mbps | 4x4: Up to 2400Mbps |
| 5GHz-2 Band | 4x4: Up to 2400Mbps | 4x4: Up to 2400Mbps | 4x4: Up to 2400Mbps | 4x4: Up to 2400Mbps |
| 2.4GHz Band | 2x2: Up to 574Mbps | 2x2: Up to 574Mbps | 2x2: Up to 574Mbps | 2x2: Up to 574Mbps |
| Dedicated Backhaul Band | 5GHz-2 | 5GHz-2 | 5GHz-2 | 5GHz-2 |
| Wired Backhaul Support | Yes (5GHz-2 not available to clients) | Yes (5GHz-2 not available to clients) | Yes (5GHz-2 not available to clients) | Yes (5GHz-2 not available to clients) |
| Processors | Quad-core 1.4 GHz CPU | Quad-core 1.4 GHz CPU | Quad-core 2.2GHz CPU | Quad-core 2.2GHz CPU |
| Memory | 512MB flash and 1GB RAM | None | 512MB flash and 1GB RAM | None |
| AP (bridge mode) Support | Yes (as a single router or a system) | N/A | Yes (as a single router or a system) | N/A |
| Channel Width Support | 20 MHz, 40 MHz, 80 MHz | 20 MHz, 40 MHz, 80 MHz | 20 MHz, 40 MHz, 80 MHz | 20 MHz, 40 MHz, 80 MHz |
| Backward Compatibility | 802.11b/g/n/ac | 802.11b/g/n/ac | 802.11b/g/n/ac | 802.11b/g/n/ac |
| Gigabit Ports | 1x WAN, 3x LAN | 2x LAN | 4x LAN | 4x LAN |
| Multi-Gig Ports | None | None | 1x 2.5Gbps WAN | None |
| Link Aggregation | WAN only (WAN+LAN1) | None | WAN only (WAN+LAN1) | None |
| Price (at launch) | $450 (2-pack) | TBD | $699 (2-pack) | TBD |
What's most significant is that the RBK752 uses two different 5GHz bands, and only the lower tier (5GHz-1) is available to clients. So while the two have the same backhaul speed, the sustained speeds at the end devices are more modest on the RBK752.
(In reality, though, that made a little difference, as you will see in the performance section below.)
Like the RBK852, the RBK752 also doesn't support the venerable 160MHz channel. As a result, clients can connect at 1.2Gbps of negotiated speed at best with sustained rates significantly lower. But the mesh will be fast enough for any sub-Gigabit Internet connection.
Extra: Orbi RBK752 vs. Orbi CBK752
The Orbi RBK752 is available as a cable-ready variant called Orbi CBK752.
As mentioned above, "C" in this case is for cable. So, the only difference between the two is that the latter's router unit, the CBR750, is a cable gatewayโit is a router + modem combo.
In many ways, the CBR750 unit is the same as when you use the RBR750 and a CM2000 modem together.
However, note that while the RBR750 can work with any broadband service, the CBR750, which doesn't have a WAN port, is suitable only for cable Internet users. So, it's more rigid.
Other than that distinction, from a Wi-Fi performance perspective, the RBK752 and CBK752 are the same. Keep that in mind if you're looking for a review of the Orbi CBK752. By the way, I might review the CM2000 modem separately when I manage to get a faster Internet connection.
An improved design
While looking the same as the previous model, the more compact design makes the RBK752 a lot better, in my opinion. The hardware units are now shorter and narrower, yet it has the theme thickness, resulting in a better footing. They won't topple easily.
While they are not wall-mount-ready out of the box, they also have screw holes for mounting accessories. They also look slightly better too, with a sleek and somewhat concave top.
Netgear Orbi AX4200 (RBK752): detail photos
Pre-sync hardware, the familiar setup process
Other than the minor differences in the look, ports, and Wi-Fi specs, the Orbi RBK752 shares the rest with the RBK852. To avoid repeating myself, I'll recap them here.
Out of the box, the two hardware units are pre-synced. As a result, all you have to do is set up the RBR750 unit like a standalone router. After that, plug the RBS750 (satellite) unit at a reasonable distance, and you get yourself a full-operational mesh.
(Note: Each unit does have a sync button which is only necessary when you use it with a hardware unit of another Orbi set or a standalone Orbi satellite.)
It's important to note that the Orbi has a full web interface available at its default IP address which is 192.168.1.1 (or routerlogin.com). Just navigate a browser there from a connected computer, and the rest is self-explanatory.
Alternatively, you can also use the Orbi mobile app. In this case, you need to log in with a Netgear account to have convenient remote management at the potential privacy risks.
It's worth noting that the app is exceptionally well designed. It also comes with a visual network map and handy tools, including a speedtest.net-based internet speed test, and a real-time WiFi Analytics section.
Standard feature set, zero Wi-Fi settings
Like the case of the RBK852, the RBK752, specifically the RBR750 router, has a standard set of network settings found in most home routers. These include QoS, Dynamic DNS, IP address reservation, port-forwarding, and so on.
There's also a built-in OpenVPN server that will come in handy for those who travel a lot, and Traffic Meter monitors and controls the Internet bandwidth.
The RBK752 comes with a short Netgear Armor online protection trial, available to many other Netgear routers. To use it, though, you'll need to resort to the mobile app. Similarly, you can also opt for Netgear Circle by Disney Parental Control feature, another entire app.
Like all Orbi systems, the RBK752 is thin in Wi-Fi settings. There's almost nothing you can do with it other than change your Wi-Fi network's name and password. But this is not exactly all bad. It makes life easier for those who want something they can set up and forget.
Netgear Orbi AX4200 (RBK752): Excellent performance
Without a multi-gig port, the RBK752 doesn't have any chance to wow anyone in its sustained Wi-Fi 6 throughput. As it turned out, though, the mesh very well in my testing, even edging out the beefier cousin in specific tests.
Indeed, the RBR750 router had sustained speeds ranging from 710Mbps to 875Mbps a 1.2Gbps-connected 2x2 Wi-Fi 6 client up to 40 feet (12 m) away.
However, the router didn't do well with Wi-Fi 5 clients due to the lower Wi-Fi specs. I used a 4x4 one at the close range (10 feet) test, and it had a sustained speed of some 660Mbps. At 40 feet away, my 3x3 client averaged some 600Mbps. Still, these are impressive numbers.
As a mesh system, the RBS750 did well, too. One thing to note right away is that there was a minor signal loss. (I always test mesh systems in a wireless setup.)
As you'll note in the chart below, the RBS750 satellite's sustained speeds were close to those of the RBR750 router. That's a clear sign of a solid wireless backhaul band.
The Orbi RBK752 registered about the same coverage as that of the RBK852. Specifically, the router unit, by itself, could handle some 2000 ftยฒ (186 mยฒ). And that means with a 2-pack, you can expect to blanket a home of some 4000 ft2.
Of course, the actual coverage will vary depending on the environment. But it's safe to say this set has a great range.
As a single router or a mesh system, the RBK752 passed my 4-day stress test with no issues at all. I used it as our primary system, and there was nothing to complain about in terms of speed and coverage. That was something since some individuals in my household tend to complain a lot.
Netgear Orbi RBK750 Series' Rating
Pros
Reliable Wi-Fi with extensive coverage
Relatively affordable
Practical, well-designed mobile app
Support WAN 2Gbps Link Aggregation
Full web interface with all standard settings and features
Cons
No 160MHz channel support, limited Wi-Fi customization
Incompatible with Wi-Fi 5 Orbi hardware
Few LAN ports; No Multi-Gig, Dual-WAN, LAN Link Aggregation, or USB port
The fast 5GHz band only works as backhaul, even in a wired setup
Conclusion
The Netgear Orbi AX4200 (RBK752) Wi-Fi 6 Mesh System delivers a better experience than the previous and much more expensive version, the RBK852.
Part of that sure is because I tested the latter almost a year ago, likely with less refined software. (The RBK852 indeed works better now than I first tried it.)
But you can't beat the price. At more than $200 less, the RBK752 is comparatively a steal. So, again, if you're looking to get a complete wireless mesh for a large home, this one is an easy recommendation against the RBK852.
Hi Dong, just came across this awesome article as I am considering upgrading my rbk752 set with CM1000 modem. I have 800mb speed with Comcast and have about 5000 sq ft home split level home. I want to incrementally make my network, streaming, and most importantly gaming better. Do you recommend upgrading my modem, my router, or both at all? is this just a waste for me and I should save my money until docsis 4 comes out and upgrade then?
Your modem is fine, Coness, but Orbi is never good for gaming. More in this post.
HI, I have purchased the Orbi AX 4200 system which replaces my old RBK 50 system. Overall very happy with the coverage and speeds I get. But i am having trouble connecting some devices, (eg my weather station and Lifx lights which use the 2.4Ghz band) to the new router. The weather station connected to the old RBK50 system with no issues and when I have a look at which devices within the house are connected to the 2.4Ghz band there are several which have no problem connecting.
Have you any advice or suggestions that may assist with this issue? And/or is it worth connecting an old router which has different SSID & password for the 2.4Ghz band via a ethernet cable connection which is connected to the orbi router? The house about 8 ethernet port outlets?
Thanks for your good reviews.
Check out this post, Bob. Give it a good read, and you’ll find out what you can do.
Hi Dong,
Have you had a chance to take a look at the newer Orbi RBK760s? Looks like they upgraded the RBK750 front-haul bandwidth up to 2400mbps, but also the processor is now a dual core 1Ghz as opposed to the old 1.4Ghz quad core…wondering if that will make a difference in real world performance?
No, I haven’t, Larry. But chances are you’ll see zero difference. Don’t bother! And honestly, Wi-Fi has outgrown Orbi — the idea only applies to a sub-Gigabit network. Check out this review of the top-tier RBKE960 for more. You have to really read it though.
You are the man! This site is honestly such a wonderful resource. Please keep up the great work!
Thanks, Larry. I try. ๐
Hello Dong, is there any way to realize the RBK852 ssid is divided into 2.4G and 5G? Thank you!
No, you can’t do that with any Orbi.
Dong: Great review! I’m looking at the Orbi 760 mesh system, in part because it reportedly has 160 MHz WiFi. You’ve emphasized the value of that. I assume this means the 760 will be faster than the 750 and other non-160 MHz Orbi units. Or am I missing something? Thanks!
It’d make little to zero difference, Michael. Chances are it will NOT be able to handle 160MHz since there’s no room for it since it doesn’t support DFS (no Orbi does). More in this post on Wi-Fi bandwidth (you’ll have to pay attention), or take my word for it.
But it’s your call.
Hi Dong,
Thanks for the fantastic reviews!
Quick question – I’ve had some issues with an unstable connection with an Archer AX55 in my 3 floor, 1500 sq. ft house, which is kept on the middle floor. I find that when gaming in the basement it cuts out at times so I just grabbed a Google Nest mesh system, but am now considering upgrading to this Orbi RBK752 as I find the speeds with the Nest are pretty bad – around 50DL/21UL compared to the previous 300DL/25UL with previous set up.
Would you recommend upgrading?
Thanks!
-Oliver
None of what you mentioned will work with “gaming”, Oliver. You can start with this post.
Dong,
Have read pretty much every review on mesh systems you have posted but haven’t seen my situation. I live in a small home 1450 sq. ft. single story, but have a unique situation. The den on the end of the home is a sunken den (fancy for carport walled up) and has brick walls which murders my wifi. The doorway into the room is centered and a second mesh node would be in the corner of the room, which would be blocked by the brick wall. I do have an ethernet connection from that corner to the main router. Would the orbi be a good solution, or do I need to go with a mesh that works better with a wired backhaul. Just worried the node won’t communicate well with the brick..About to pull the trigger on the Costco RBK763S but read this now not so sure.
You should *not* use any Orbi if you have wired backhaul, Terry. More here.
That said, in your case, you have lots of options. Check out one of these combos. Or any dual-band setup that supports wired backhaul on this list.
Good luck! ๐
Hey Dong,
Great review! I’m just curious with one question here. I know its not ideal but I have no choice but to use the Ethernet ports on the satellite for my PC and my Media server. Right now I have the AC3000 and trying to upgrade. Is there any difference between the speed I can get from the ethernet port on the S750 or S850!?
Thank you
No, Benney. They are all Gigabit.
Thanks Dong, but let me ask this differently, Is there a difference between the speed that the satellite can offer through LAN!? Or is the max speed offered thorough these satellites are better at all on either of them!?
Nope, for wired devices connected directly to the satellite.
Hello Dong,
Thank you for a very informative review. I have a medium-sized house, with reasonably thick concrete walls that are the bane of my Google WiFi system (I have one Nest Wifi router with two Google WiFi satellites), as the signal tends to take a hefty knock passing through just one wall. In your opinion, would this system offer a tangible upgrade (in terms of signal strength and wall penetration) over the Google WiFi system I have?
Many thanks,
David
Yes, David. Highly likely. You should think about running a cable though. With a home like that, you can’t really count on wireless.
Many thanks, Dong. And agreed, I think itโs time to do some DIY, thanks for the guide.
Thanks for the feedback. I forgot to mention that my Xbox Series X is plugged into the rbr750. Should I bite the bullet and upgrade?
Thank you for your review, I bought the RBR750 because I read your review. However, I would like to separate the 2.4GHz and 5GHz because I have some smart home devices and older devices that only use 2.4GHz. These devices are struggling to connect to the wi-fi. Do you know how to separate the SSID on Orbi’s Router? Thank you.
Not possible, Vu. Like I mentioned in the review, you can’t do any more than change the Wi-Fi name and password. That’s the case with all Orbi sets and most purpose-built “easy” mesh sets. Go with the Asus XT8 instead, you’ll get all the customization you’d want to have.
Do you happen to know how to remove the back plate to expose the heat sink? Mine keeps overheating at 50mbps and it’s annoying.
No, Peter. But mine has been working for months without any heat issues. Make sure you keep the hardware in an open, well-ventilated place.
Your articles and discussion are a great resource. Thank you. Still, I am wrestling with deciding on a mesh system and deciding between the Asus zt8 or the Orbi RBK752. The reviews and discussion point to the Asus as a clear choice, until you start reading the support forums and nightmares people encounter with the firmware update. Plus, noobs like me can get lost in all the custom settings that may need tweaking. The one thing I do like with my current old Asus RT-N66U is the ability to schedule times for specific devices. It wasn’t clear if the Orbi lets you do that without having to subscribe or get the Disney Circle subscription. I suppose that applies to the other mesh systems I’ve been reading about like the Nighthawk MK83. If helpful, I do not plan ever needing (or paying for) speeds above 1 Gig, and currently only need 400 Mbs, but it would be nice to get the full speed throughout my 3 story house where the connection drops at the far end basement room, (i.e. lots of turns).
Thanks for your recommendation.
Netgear is ending the support for Circle in favor of its own Armor subscription, Adam. In any case, I’m not a fan of parental controls. Go with the XT8. You can always downgrade the firmware if need be.
Thanks!
Sure, Adam. ๐
Would u please post your opinion comparing RBK752 it with ASUS XT8 ?
Hi Dong: I not very tech savvy. We have a D-Link router (SSID) and a couple of extenders (Netgear), all a few years old. Our internet keeps blipping off & on and our provider thinks we might need a new router. Our house & home office (situated in the garage) cover about 3200 sq ft (house has 2 floors). Our laptops have WiFi 4 (802.11n), Network Band 2.4 Ghz, link speed 300/300 Mbps. Our internet speed here is not great: Download 1.08 to 2.61, Upload 1.11 to 1.25, PING ms 70 to101 (2 readings today via Ookla). I am looking at the Netgear Orbi AX4200 RBK753S with 2 satellites. Do you think this might be helpful in our case? Thanks, Cathy
I think the Orbi will likely work out for you, Cathy. But I can’t say for sure. Check out this post to have a good understanding of what you should do, etc.
Dong –
I have spent the entire evening reviewing articles on your site and I think I now know enough to ask my question. You have a great collection of info here, thanks for sharing!
From several of your reviews, I get the impression that you prefer the Linksys Velop units for a mesh system if you can wire the elements together, but the Netgear Orbi devices for a fully wireless system. My situation may require a combination of both types of connectivity.
I am trying to spread my network across 4 floors in a 100-year-old concrete and steel converted school building with severe dead spots caused by 3-foot-thick support columns. When the building was renovated, they used steel studs for the new walls. There are also foot-thick interior walls faced with plaster on steel mesh, and the poured, reinforced concrete ceilings have a similar plaster on steel mesh finish. Not the best for wireless transmissivity. Using just the ISPโs wireless router, I can lean back 6โ when at my desk and my cell phone will go from full bars to a dropped call.
Max available ISP service is 450 Mbps, which I have. Two years ago, the max was 100, so upgrades in the near future are unlikely. I plan to keep the ISPโs modem as I have TV, 3 phone lines and Internet bundled. I may keep their separate router in service (with their wireless turned off) as it eliminates their ability to blame customer equipment for the frequent service problems.
Topology: From my base ISP connection, I have to go up one floor and down two. Layout is about 1000 sq ft on each level with my primary level and the two below it in an exact vertical stack. I can go downstairs with Cat 6, phone and coax to feed the East end of that level.
The real challenge is the level above my main area. The closest point in the upstairs space is at the opposite end of my main space and on the other side of a hallway. I cannot run cable to the remote room and although any signal only has to go about 25 feet in a straight line, that line includes going diagonally through a floor and perpendicularly through two concrete and steel walls.
I would really appreciate your comments on my proposed configuration: I think a 4-unit Orbi system might be serviceable. ( RBK 754 ) Configure the Orbi Router as a wired access point off the ISPโs router, all on my main level. Only the Orbi router connects to the ISPโs gateway. Feed some local devices with Ethernet currently in place using unmanaged switches and a max of 3 hops. The Orbi router will be fairly centrally located on this level, adjacent to the ISPโs hardware.
A second Orbi (satellite #1) will be located on the level below at the West end of the space where it will avoid signal blockage from the kitchen, bath and heating appliances. It will also offer a secondary path for communicating with a third Orbi (satellite #2) located in the SouthWest corner of my main level, which otherwise would have a primary signal path directly through 3-4 walls and the appliances on that level.
Another Orbi (satellite #2) located in the SW corner of my main level would have a primary role of communicating with a 4th Orbi (satellite #3) in the NE corner of the remote area across the hallway and up one level. This is the closest point in my daughterโs room and of course she likes on-line games. Although this space has to be totally wireless, she has reached a stage where privacy takes primacy over connection speed.
In summary, aside from general comments as to my sanity, I would be interested in your thoughts on having a backhaul ethernet link from the router to satellite #2 which is attempting to communicate with satellite #3 in the room across the hall. I realize that this wastes the second 5GHz link in this satellite, but the downstairs and the upstairs / across the hall satellites will not have the luxury of any direct cable connection.
I am thinking of keeping the ISPโs router without their wireless and going Dual โ NAT for security.
In this context, do you feel the Orbi system is the better solution or ? and, about that wired backhaul to help the link speed for my daughterโs room? Finally, any comments on beam-forming options to improve this link?
Bruce Lightfoot
Tech-savvy, but no expert.
Go with the Asus XT8, Bruce. And separate the 5GHz and 2.4GHz as two SSIDs. Disable the 160MHz backhaul band if you live in a big city, or if you experience disconnections. That will do it.
Dong –
Thanks for the recommendation! Now I have another rabbit hole to dive into to learn more about this system and why you feel it suits my needs the best. As always, it seems you have done your homework, so I should have lots of your thoughts to guide me. I expect it will be an interesting ride!
Bruce
Sure, Bruce. Have fun! The review and this post on AiMesh, in general, will help in case you run into issues.
Hi Dong,
I purchased the Orbi Mesh WiFi 6 System – AX4200 – 2 pack (RBK752).
I now need a 2nd satellite, but I have seen where I can buy a single satellite for the 2 pack RBK752. Do you know where I can purchase 1 so I can extend coverage? We have a home with basement, 1st and 2nd floor. satellite is in basement and router on 1st floor, 2nd floor is not getting good coverage.
It’s available where you get the 2-pack, PW. The satellite is called RBS750 (as mentioned in the review.)
Great review and very informative. If you wire the 3, AX4200 Orbi units together, does it use a wired back channel to communicate or does it still use the 5GHz wireless?
Is it better to wire them together?
No, Greg. Orbi is not for a wired setup. More here. https://dongknows.com/home-mesh-brands-explained/
Dong,
By any chance, can you use a Satellite (RBS750) with a RBR850 in a wired mesh? Since the post, did they enable 5GHz-2 to client yet?
Thanks.
Alexis
Yes and no, Alexis.
Great review — convinced me to buy AX4200 + 2 satellites which now work in my 3000 sq ft home. However, my mobile devices (laptops, phones) do not switch hubs readily when roaming unless I switch networks (main guest). I’ve read about Orbi advanced settings including MU-MIMO, implicit beam-forming and fast-roaming. However, it appears that they are hidden or don’t exist in the control menu (advanced or otherwise). I’d like to tinker to improve sluggish hand-offs to more liked I’d imagined in reading the description ‘seamless.’ If no control options, maybe hub placement strategies? I look forward to your advice.
Don’t mess around too much, Dave. Also, check out this post. https://dongknows.com/mesh-wi-fi-system-explained/
Is it necessary to have Netgears security software with the Orbi AX4200? I have security software installed in my computer and it covers my phone and tablet too, or is a security suite specifically for the router necessary?
No it’s not, Lilly, which is why it’s an option.
Hi Dong, if I have a 3-storey, 3200sf house and internet coming into the basement, can I use one of these in the basement and another on the top floor? Or do I need a third unit? I’ve read that there’s such thing as too many nodes, so…
You probably won’t’ need three, but the second unit needs to be on the 2nd floor. It needs to be close enough to the first one. If that doesn’t work out then you’ll need a third one.
Dear Dong, your posting regarding the Orbi RBK750 is very helpful to me; thanks. Would you kindly help more by answering my question? I recently purchased a Netgear CAX80 modem router to connect to my three Unifi AP Pro’s that are four years old. The system was experiencing connectivity issues which improved after I disabled the wireless feature on the CAX80. I have today ordered the RBK753S in the hope of replacing the Unifi AP’s. I would like to use the CAX80 because I have already invested in the unit. Should I connect the RBK753 router with or without turning off the router feature on the CAX80? If it should be turned off, should it be done prior to installing the RBK753, or after installing? Thanks for any help.
Keep in mind that the CAX80 is your *gateway*, Gregory — it’s a good one, too. After that, check out this post.
Dear Dong,
First and foremost, thank you very much for giving me some of your time. You provide a good example of people helping people just for the sake of helping.
The moral of the story is that one should always begin with the end in mind. Unfortunately, I am only just realizing how much I don’t know about network management. Fortunately, reading your posts is helping tremendously. I will keep my current system working until WiFi 6E is introduced and then spend the money and effort to upgrade when the investment will survive for a few years. You have inspired me to continue learning on this topic, and for that I am appreciative. Thanks, Greg
Sure, Greg. ๐
Dear Dong
I just got 1000mbit fibernet in a 1800 squarefeet, 2 story house from 1920 (so no concrete walls). Have a single Google Wifi Mesh that I tried shortly, but my phone kept choosing the 2,4ghz band on the Google mesh giving me around 80mbit wirelessly.
So now I’m looking for a foolproof (as I’m not that tech-savvy) WiFi-mesh that will allow me for 200 mbit+ on the second story where my office is. Thinking that the RBK752 (2 pack) is a good bet, but here is my question:
My internetprovider keeps saying: It has to be able to do VLAN tagging 101. Does the RBK752 allow this out of the box or does it require any tampering (if possible at all)?
Best regards Frederik Fagerlund
I know the Orbi allows for some VLAN (many others do, too) but not necessarily the type required by your provider, Fred. I think you’d better use the provider-supplied hardware and then turn that gateway into the bridge mode, or go with a double NAT. More here.
Thank you for the quick answer! And there shouldn’t be any obvious trouble using the Orbi RBK752 as a double NAT?
BR Frederik
Hello!
Awesome site and reviews! Thank you!
Iโd like to ask for some spiritual guidance.
I currently have gigabit internet (Comcast) and an Asus RT-AX92u. This setup alone isnโt enough to cover our entire house (1700sq ft, bedrooms/office in the basement). Between getting another Asus and going with Costcoโs Orbi (AX4200), which of the two would be the better option?
Thank you!
Get another same Asus unit, Rodrigo.
I tried the Orbi and my home security system keeps disconnecting… Iโll return it and replace with another couple of 92u. Thank you!
Awesome site..love it….I have had Orbi’s and EERO’s (both the pro and eero 5’s).
Are you aware of any mesh system that would allow for multiple SSID’s? I am aware of the ASUS’s—but the fact they don’t broadcast the Guest network on the satellites not sure if I want to go that way. About 7500 squ ft house–all wired…I need to have 3 separate SSID’s (and I don’t want to split the 2.4/5ghz either) Other than going with a Meraki? ๐ Thanks again!!!!
Most canned mesh systems allow for a little customization in terms of Wi-Fi, Shawn. So the short answer is no. You can try the Synology Mesh, it’s great, but still Wi-Fi 5.
Hi Dong,
Love your work, I have had these routers for about 5 months now and have noticed that the backhaul actually caps out at 1200Mbps per the Router GUI. I sent out a note to Netgear Support and they haven’t been able to give me a resolution.
People with the RBK850 Series have the correct 2400Mbps backhaul. Does this impact the client side speeds at all?
That depends on the client side, John. It’s a matter of bandwidth. More here. But I wouldn’t worry about it.
Hey there,
Great informational read. I’ve had this system for a few months now as I only recently replaced my Nighthawk R7000, which worked great until I maxed it’s concurrent device limit.
With that said, do you or anyone else on here know the exact concurrent device limit for the AX4200? It claims 40+, but what’s the exact number? I seem to be rapidly approaching 40 devices and fear I need to upgrade to the AX6000.
Don’t worry about that number, Tony. More here. https://dongknows.com/how-to-pick-the-best-wi-fi-router-for-your-home/
Hey im using the orbi RBK50 amd running 33 devices do u know the limit for the RBK50? Thanks
There’s no hard limit, Zack. More here.
Hey Dong – You are awesome. Thank you. Like a lot of others I am debating between the Costco Orbi RBK753 3-pack (which at $429 eliminates the cost disadvantage) and ASUS ZenWiFi XT8. I have a three story home so the Orbi’s extra satellite has appeal. I’m on Xfinity but about to move to ATT 1GB fiber.
My question is this. Consumer Reports gives Orbi a 2/5 for security but never explains why. I’m trying to understand if I should be concerned and what differences bothered them vs. ASUS (rated 4/5).
Any thoughts there?
You still read Consumer Reports, David? ๐ I’d say if you want something easy to use and stable out of the box, go with the Orbi. If you want something with lots customization and excitement, go with the Asus.
OK you got me ;-). So no special vulnerability or reason to worry about security with Orbi? Any idea what got them agitated?
Not that I know of, David. Also, this kind of issues, if any, can be fixed via firmware updates.
Fantastic site Dong, first and foremost. I thought I saw you wrote that there was an issue with Netgear having access to all your internet traffic with regards to the Orbi system. Is that an issue with the Asus XT8 as well? Iโm guessing most people around 3000-4000 sq ft are down to these 2 systems to buy. FYI the RBK 752 is now on sale for $379, which may sway mine and othersโ leaning I think. Thank you in advance.
Thanks, Utah.
No, that’s the case of the eero. You can use the Orbi completely without connecting to Netgear at all though you have the option to use their mobile app. Go with the RBK752, you’ll love it.
Thank you Sir for the prompt response. Best site on the internet.
Sure, Utah. ๐
I bought these from Costco and couldn’t be more pleased with them. They just work wirelessly without any effort. I had people complaining about dropped Zoom calls before and since it has been a breeze. I did have one issue with Lenovo based Chromebooks connecting though. I ended up going in to the advanced settings online (not the phone app) and adjusting the RTS to something higher. After rebooting both they are now connecting without issue at 1500. I think the default value was set to 50.
I have recommended this set to everyone I know as the perfect blend of cost to performance in a mesh system.
Thanks for sharing your experience and tip, Troy.
Hi Dong, what do you better like, this unit or the Asus ZenWifi AX? Because that was the choice I had to make.
I’d go with the Asus, mostly because it has a lot more features and settings. But if you want something that requires less work and maintainace this one is better.
Hi Dong,
First time poster, here. I’ve been waiting a while for your review of this unit. Here’s my journey:
– Long-time user of Apple AirPort Extreme/Time Capsule, but having moved to a larger home a couple of years ago, I’ve been on a search for a more suitable replacement – preferably a mesh network.
– About 4 months ago I purchased the 3-pack of this unit (Costco) and had, by-and-large, a great experience. However, of our ~20 devices, 1 (a MacBook) would not stay connected to the internet. I spent hours troubleshooting with both Netgear and Apple. At the end, each pointed the finger at the other and told me to try a new solution.
– I then bought eero pro (Wifi 5) 3-pack. Very easy install, and was reliable for connection, but I was significantly underwhelmed after having experienced firsthand the benefits of Wifi 6 and a dedicated backhaul (neither of which eero offered). The performance speed tests were ~50% of my incoming internet speed from my ISP in a majority of the house. My devices would not switch from node-to-node with any ease or predictability. I returned to the store.
– I then bought Linksys Velop MX10. It was good, but it was expensive. It seemed to perform well (flawless connectivity), but not quite as strong in performance as my initial Orbi RBK753 – namely, with Orbi speeds remain close to full (per the ISP), in between nodes (Satellites), and throughout more of the house, but Velop seemed to diminish by about ~30%.
– On a wing and a prayer I returned the Velop MX10 and simply bought another set of Orbi RBK753’s. This time, they worked. All devices connected/remain connected. I’ve now had them running for ~90 days, and save for a few internet outages (primarily attributed to my ISP) and one incident where all devices were losing connection to the internet, after determining it was neither my ISP or modem, I simply restart the router and satellites, and I’ve been back in business, since.
I’m sharing this, hopefully to be helpful to others weighing options. Honestly, I was eagerly awaiting the eero Pro 6’s, but it seems they are all together underwhelming per user reviews, and Dong’s reviews, here.
Lastly, I’m on the fence between keeping these Orbi’s vs. the new Linksys Velop AX4200 (MX12600) [3-pack]. I had great performance out of the MX10 (2-pack), but it was simply too expensive compared to Orbi, and being only 2 units. The main difference of interest for me is the USB port on each unit on the MX12600. I do a lot with backups to external drives (NAS “light”). This isn’t an option with Orbi, unless I invest in a true NAS solution – i.e. Synology.
Dong, any thoughts to add regarding my situation?
Thanks in advance!
Looks like it’s working out for you now, Josh. I’d not consider the MS4200 unless the place is wired. I’m actually doing a matchup post of the two.
Thanks, Dong!
Sure, Josh. Happy Thanksgiving! ๐
Great review. I was forced into these as my old mesh system died after a firmware update and this was the best router i could go out and buy in my area. Costco has these $100 less than netgear.
My original plan was to return them after i got something better. I have 9000 sq ft home. These worked so good out of the box, i just got another set to complete the coverage! I set up the second router as a wired access point in one corner of the house with the main router connected to four satellites. The fourth satellite is quite a distance away from the main router, but it is doing a great job of daisychaining from a satellite in between.
I agree that no one should expect gig plus performance. I am getting at least 200 mbps in all corners of my house, which is not something i thought possible for under $1000!
It does take awhile for it to optimize itself. For a few weeks the fourth satellite would stop daisychaining and try to link with the main router. Its been working well for 4 months now. The โnest thermostatโ issue is also real, and weird. That could be a dealbreaker for some people.
That sounds about right, Adeel. Thanks for sharing your experience! ๐
Hey Dong,
As is usually the case, nice review and usable information relating to the devices. I know Netgear has just announced and released some newer versions of the Orbi Mesh Systems. I believe there is now an RBK763S, which seems to possibly be the replacement for the RBK753S? However, the specs seem to be different, in which, the newer version seems to have gone from a quad core processor to a dual core processor, yet has added more RAM and Storage. I would be interested in how this compares to the older version.
Generally, those S variants are stripped-down versions, Allen. Asus does that, too. I tend to avoid them — nobody can review everything, especially at the level I do as you have noticed. But the gist is that you get what you pay for. ๐