Asus ZenWiFi AX Review: The Best AiMesh System to Date

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The Asus ZenWiFi AX XT8 includes two identical routers.

The ZenWiFi AX AX6600 Whole-Home Tri-band Mesh Wi-Fi 6 System (model XT8) is a souped-up version of the CT8. Both are part of the new ZenWiFi family Asus announced earlier this year.

The only differences between the two, albeit big ones, are the fact the XT8 features Wi-Fi 6 and a multi-gig WAN port. Other than that, they share everything else, the appearance, setup process, features, how they work as mesh systems, and even some shortcomings.

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This review focuses on these differences. It’s intended for those who have already read my take on the CT8.

In all, compared to the CT8, the ZenWiFi AX XT8 has more than enough to justify the extra $100 you’d need to spend. Though not a must-have, it’s a reasonably-priced, flexible Wi-Fi 6 AiMesh system with a ton more to offer than its more expensive rivals.

ASUS ZenWiFi AX Whole-Home Tri-Band Mesh WiFi 6 System (XT8)

8.9

Performance

8.5/10

Features

9.5/10

Design and Setup

8.5/10

Value

9.0/10

Pros

  • Fast Wi-Fi performance and large coverage at a comparatively affordable cost
  • Improved and flexible AiMesh
  • Lots network settings and useful features, including free real-time online protection for life
  • Full 4x4 dedicated backhaul band with optional wired backhaul support
  • Multi-gig WAN port with Dual-WAN and WAN link aggregation

Cons

  • No 160MHz 4x4 support for Wi-Fi 6 clients, for now, in a wireless setup
  • No multi-gig LAN port or LAN link aggregation
  • Only four network ports on each hardware units
  • Guest networking, for now, remains at the router unit
  • Not enough instructions on network settings

Asus ZenWiFi AX XT8: Everything the CT8 has and a lot more

As a mesh system, the ZenWiFi AX, like the CT8, includes two identical routers. From the front, you can’t tell hardware the XT8 and the CT8 routers apart. The two look the same, sharing the single-slot-toaster design, and available in white or charcoal colors.

The ZenWiFi AX XT8 and the ZenWiFi AC CT8. Look closely, maybe you can tell them apart.

Familiar design, now with multi-gig WAN support

On the back, though, you’ll note that the XT8’s WAN port is now a multi-gig port that works either at either 1Gbps or 2.5Gbps. Also, the USB 3.2 Gen 1 port is on the right side instead of left.

Like the CT8, the XT8 features Dual-WAN, you can turn its USB port or another LAN port into a second WAN port, in case you want it to host two broadband connections at a time or load balancing or high availability.

By default, there’s no multi-gig LAN port. And that’s disappointing since that means locally, the best wired-to-wireless connection you’d get out of the XT8 is 1Gbps.

But when working as a node, the XT8’s 2.5Gbps WAN port now works as a LAN port. However, generally, in real-world usage, it’s not a good idea to count on the wireless backhaul to reliably deliver the same speed as a wired multi-gig LAN connection.

Also, you’ll need to have a second node unit before you can see the value of this port. With a 2-pack, the speed is limited by the other Gigabit ports anyway.

High-speed backhaul band, presently no 160MHz channel support for clients

Each XT8 hardware unit is an AX6600 tri-band router with one 2.4GHz and two 5GHz broadcasters. The router dedicates one of the 5GHz band, the 5GHz-2, as the dedicate backhaul, which works solely to link the two hardware units to form a mesh system.

The 5GHz-2 is the most powerful band, featuring 4×4 Wi-Fi 6 to deliver up to 4800Mbps. It also supports the venerable 160MHz channel width. Thanks to this strong backhaul connection, you can place the XT8’s hardware further from each other and still have a fast mesh system.

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The other 5GHz band (5GHz-1) uses 2×2 Wi-Fi specification, which generally caps 2400 Mbps for Wi-Fi 6. Unfortunately, however, the XT8’s front-haul doesn’t support 160MHz channels. As a result, in a wireless setup, Wi-Fi 6 clients can connect at 1200 Mbps at most while Wi-Fi 5 devices will get 867 Mbps.

Update: Asus told me on February 11, 2020, that it would might release a new firmware update that opens up the front-haul to support 4×4 160MHz specs, effectively doubling the XT8’s Wi-Fi speed for clients. This doesn’t seem like a sure thing, however.

Many mesh routers don’t support 160MHz channel width for end-users. Examples of these include big-name products like the Ubiquiti Alien and the Netgear Orbi RBK 852.

The ZenWiFi AX XT8 shares the same web interface as that of previous Asus routers. Note its 5GHz-2 band’s default setting for the dedicated backhaul role.

Wired backhaul support

Like all AiMesh routers, the ZenWiFi AX support wired backhaul — you can use a network cable to hook one router to another.

In this case, by default, the 5GHz-2 band is still not available to clients — it remains a hidden dedicated backup backhaul in case the wired connection is lost. So, when you use SmartConnect, this 5GHz-2 band is not part of the main Wi-Fi network. In short, it will not be used at all.

There’s a way to make use of this band, however. You can manually create a new unhidden SSID with it, different from that of the primary Wi-Fi network. This SSID will then be available, throughout the AiMesh system, as separate 5GHz-only full 4×4 Wi-Fi 6 Wi-Fi network for clients.

In other words, like all tri-band AiMesh systems, with a wired backhaul, you’ll need to do a bit of tweaking before you can make use of the 5GHz-2 band, which has an SSID of its own.

ZenWiFi AX XT8’s detail photos

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The ZenWiFi AX XT8’s retail box.

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The ZenWiFi AX XT8 includes two identical routers.

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Each router has three Gigabit LAN ports and one 2.5 Gbps WAN port.

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The ZenWiFi AX XT8 router is quite light and compact.

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But it has enough weight to stay put on a surface.

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The multi-gig WAN port is one of a few things that set the XT8 apart from the CT8. It also means the ZenWiFi AX XT8 can deliver a faster-than-gigabit internet connection.

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From the top the ZenWiFi AX XT8 routers look like mini single-slot toasters.

ZenWiFi AX XT8’s specifications

Familiar settings, features, and shortcomings

Again, other than the more powerful hardware, the XT8 shares the same set of settings and features as the CT8. It also uses the same web interface and the Asus mobile app. That said, you can find out more in the review of the CT8, including how to set the system up.

To avoid repeating myself, I’ll recap below some significant points.


Asus ZenWiFi AX’s highlights

  • Out of the box, the two XT8 hardware units are pre synced. No matter how you change them individually — like using each as a standalone router for a different home — once restored to default settings, they are ready to work together as a mesh.
  • The XT8 router can work with all other AiMesh-enabled routers, as the router unit or a satellite node.
  • You can restore the XT8 router with the settings of any previous Asus router, making upgrade an easy job. Note, though, that it’s always better to set it up from scratch to avoid potential setting conflicts
  • The XT8 can work as a node for a system hosted by any other AiMesh-ready router. Or it can host one to extend its own network.
  • There are lots of network settings, enough to make almost any advanced user happy and features anyone would appreciate. These include AiProtection (online protection and parental control), Traffic Analyser, Adaptive QoS, VPN (client or server), and an excellent Dynamic DNS.
  • AiMesh now has a new section of its own, within the web interface, which makes managing and adding additional nodes easier. You can also make use of the XT8’s USB port even when it’s working as a node.
  • The USB port can do all that you can think of for a router peripheral port. You can use it to host a printer, a cellular modem, or a storage device to deliver all storage-related features you can imagine — data sharing/syncing/streaming, Time Machine backup, PC-less downloading, and more.

Asus ZenWiFi AX’s shortcomings

And like other Asus routers, the XT8 shares the same shortcomings, too. First and foremost is the fact it can be buggy. Due to the sheer amount of features and settings, it seems Asus has had trouble keeping tabs of them all.

For example, a firmware update can cause issues — you might need to reset the system and set it up or restore settings from a backup file to fix it. Another thing is the Guest networking feature, like the case of other AiMesh routers, is only available at the router unit, and not throughout the system.

You can expect most of the system’s shortcomings to be addressed one way or another via future firmware updates. However, the excessive amount of settings can be overwhelming for home users and might cause the system to remain buggy in some shape or form.

ZenWiFi AX CXT8: Excellent performance

For the official scores, I tested the ZenWiFi AX in a wireless setup. The system doesn’t have the Wi-Fi specs to be the fastest on the market. Instead, it’s one that delivers extensive Wi-Fi coverage and still with excellent real-world throughputs.

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I used both 2×2 Wi-Fi 6 and top Wi-Fi 5 clients for the testing. Keep in mind that from the clients’ perspective, the XT8 is a 2×2 system of both standards.

Fast Wi-Fi speeds

As a single router, the XT8 delivered precisely the kind of performance I had expected from it. My Wi-Fi 6 client connected at 1.2Gbps and had a sustained speed of almost 840 Mbps at the close range of fewer than 10 feet (3 m).

When I increased the distance to 40 feet (12 m), it now registered higher than 770 Mbps. Wi-Fi 5 clients fared the worst on the chart. However, that’s because the XT8 is the only one, among the existing handful of Wi-Fi 6 mesh systems on the market, that doesn’t feature 3×3 or faster Wi-Fi 5.

That said, its scores of some 660 Mbps and 450 Mbps for close and long-range, respectively, weren’t bad at all.

The XT8 did it best when working as a mesh. The node (satellite) unit delivered the best performance to Wi-Fi 6 clients, averaging 850 Mbps and 792 Mbps for close and long-range, respectively. These were faster than higher-specced systems.

Excellent range, reliable signals

With two units, the XT8 could cover anywhere between 4000 ft² (372 m²) to 5000 ft² of residential space in my testing with fast Wi-Fi speeds.

I tested the system with the node placed some 40 feet away. But in anecdotal tests, I could put it some 70 feet away and still get speed fast enough to deliver my 300 Mbps internet in full.

Your mileage will vary, but it’s safe to say, thanks to the full 4×4 Wi-Fi 6 backhaul, in a wireless setup, the XT8’s range delivers. The system proved to be reliable, too. It passed my 3-day stress test without any disconnection.

Real Wi-Fi 6 speed with wired backhaul

The XT8’s wired backhaul also worked well in my trial — in this case, the distance between the two units doesn’t matter much. I created a separate network with the 5GHz-2 band and was able to get full 2400 Mbps connection speed from it using my 2×2 Wi-Fi 6 clients.

Note, though, that this connection speed was between the clients and the XT8. So, the only time you truly benefit from the multi-gig Wi-Fi speeds is when you have a multi-gig WAN connection, and the clients connect directly to the router. Since the XT8 has no multi-gig LAN port, clients connected to the node won’t get real-world speeds faster than 1Gbps.

Still, it’s nice to have the option to have a 5GHz band working for high-speed clients. That said, even though not necessary, it’s a good idea to use a network cable to connect the two hardware units.

Decent NAS performance

Without a multi-gig LAN port, the ZenWiFi AC XT8 can’t compare to those with one in terms of network-attached storage performance when hosting an external drive. But it was much faster than the CT8 in my testing.

Asus ZenWiFi AX NAS

When coupled with the SanDisk Extreme portable SSD, via a Gigabit connection, the router scored some 46 MB/s and almost 65 MB/s for writing and reading, respectively. These were decent enough for a casual NAS solution.

Conclusion

The ZenWiFi AX XT8 AX6600 Whole-Home Tri-band Mesh Wi-Fi 6 System is one out of more than a dozen Asus AiMesh systems I’ve tested, and it’s one of the best, if not the best.

The system is far from perfect, though. It’s not the fastest, nor does it deliver all features you can get from an Asus router — it has no game-specific features or multi-gig LAN port. And like most Asus routers, it can be buggy, too. You might need to work at it for a bit before it works for you.

In return, it has an excellent combination of everything you’d look for in a mesh Wi-Fi system, which is fast performance and broad coverage.

Most importantly, at less than $450, it’s a steal. Many other 2-pack mesh systems on the market, like the Netgear Orbi RBK852 or the Arris SURFboard mAX Pro, cost hundreds of dollars more, yet have less in features and network customization.

710 thoughts on “Asus ZenWiFi AX Review: The Best AiMesh System to Date”

      • I need reliability and coverage. I have an XT8 system setup in my house, and I have major disconnecting issues. Everyday I need to power cycle the whole system because it just stops working. I have the router and nodes hooked up through Ethernet.

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    • Azim,

      My personal opinion is the Orbi. I used the xt8 for two months before I had to give up. Not sure if the firmware has improved, but I just wasn’t getting the throughout that I needed in the house, even using a wired backhaul. With the Orbi, I have a family of six on zoom and videogames all day and the system barely hiccups.

      In the worst room in the house, I get 650mbps connected to the satellite ( this one is not wired backhaul). I may hate theirfirmware upgrades but the hardware is solid.

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      • Rob,

        Yeah I’m debating abandoning my 4 XT8 nodes and picking up an Orbi system. It just seems like such a waste of money leaving those XT8’s now.

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        • Have you considered the Taotronics ac3000. Recognize it’s WiFi 5, but by all accounts it seems to me capable of providing max speeds and features for more than half the price is the ORBI or Asus …. Mine come tomorrow, paid $199 Canadian dollars for a2 pack: https://amzn.to/3fNEvPi

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        • Azim, I had your exact setup. First of all, I loved the flexibility that the XT8 gave me in setup, parental controls, and the free Trendmicro protection. However, (a) I could never get close to the gigabit I was paying for and (b) my zoom calls would lag even when close to a node. In the end, the only thing that matters is coverage and connection. The Orbi excels at that. I combine it with the Netgear nighthawk modem that just came out to capture an extra 200 Mbps from Xfinity and my kids are happy as pie. I have plenty of negative stories about Netgear and their support/firmware, but their hardware has generally been top notch albeit not a true mesh.

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          • Rob,

            I’m getting great speeds, 800mbps on my iPhone 12 Pro Max from multiple rooms away from the closest node. What I need is reliability. Having to power cycle my whole system once or twice a day is irritating to say the least.

  1. Hi Dong,

    Could use your advice. I’m upgrading from a 3 pod Orbi RBK53 system to WiFi6 and purchased the ASUS ZenWifi XT8 2 pack. I have Google Fiber 1GB Internet but what I’m really trying to optimize for is wireless VR link between my Quest 2 (which supports WiFi 6) and my desktop PC which sports 10GB LAN and Intel AX200 WiFi. I’m concerned that by itself, the ASUS XT8 won’t be much of an upgrade from the Orbi, but by pairing it with a ROG GT-AX11000, I can unlock extra performance thanks to the 2.5gb LAN port on the ROG. Does this sound sensible to you? Do I loose anything by pairing the XT8 system with the ROG router?

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    • Yes, Mark, the GT makes sense in terms of Internet speed, though not much of a difference considering your have 1Gbps Internet (and not faster). I’d just go with the XT8. Note, though that it might not have the same coverage as the old 3-pack Orbi.

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  2. Thanks for the review. I’m currently trying to decide between the Orbi 852, AmpliFi Alien and this one.
    A few months have passed, did Asus update the firmware so quest network is available also in the mesh?
    And if I’m reading correct at only supports WPA2 and not the new WPA3.Is that also something they could add in a firmware update or does it need different hardware?
    Thanks in advance

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      • Hi Dong, thanks for the reply about WPA3.

        Could you look into the guest network question? Would be a bummer if the guest network still would not be available on the satellite/mesh.

        best regards

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  3. Hi Dong,
    I’ve been reading about your posts on the AiMesh and finally installed it today. I used the XT8 as my main router and 6 more to finish the set up. My only issue is that I have a network switch, and it does not allow me to connect the nodes to the main router through the switch. When the nodes are connected to the LAN ports in the different rooms it disconnects the node completely from the mesh system, despite the main router being plugged into the switch directly.

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  4. I am planning to get 4 XT8 (2 sets) to cover the entire hours. I wanted to know if it is possible to combine 4 XT8s or you need a different solution as I have quite a big area to cover.

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  5. It’s there an ability to quickly disconnect a specific device? It’s a current feature I have with my ISP through the modem and use with my kids

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  6. I’ve been using XT8 Zenwifi since June 2020. up till today, i’m still facing a problem of frequent disconnection even after updating to the latest official firmware Version 3.0.0.4.386.25790.

    What happen was, in every device i’ve to disconnect and reconnect the wifi on daily basis. some times more twice a day. My system set up is, 1 router + 1 node.

    Reported to Asus, they gave me the following firmware version > 9.0.2.4.386_25527 which temporarily solved the problem.

    Hope the next firmware will solved the problem.

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  7. Hi Dong,

    I brought this with confidence after your great review and all my personal laptops and other devices are getting max speed all other my house which is very spread-out. The problem I have is that my work laptop cant find either the 2.4ghz or 5ghz bands so I’m having to connect through ethernet which is a pain as limits where I can work, and with young kids causes challenges.
    I’ve turned off the ‘Hide SSID’ option but still not appearing, interestingly there is a network being shown that’s strong but says unknown, when trying to join it asks for SSID so have tried adding both the names for the 2.4ghz and 5ghz but gives error of not recognised.

    Andy help on what might be causing this issue would be very much appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Andy

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      • Thanks Dong, I had a go with the backhaul advice but it still gave error message of unable to connect so have turned the dedicated backhaul back on. Unfortunately I can’t change network adapters as it’s all locked down, I’m only in this job for 3 more weeks so think I will just cope with wired network for now.
        In doing all this my 2nd node now has a weak signal, I’ve taken it out of network and added again and still the same, this is with boxes next to each other. Before I received your first post advice a friend told me to have the bands under same SSID which I now have with smart connect enabled (also tried disabled) so not sure if this would impact at all.
        Your help again would be very much appreciated.
        Thanks again,
        Andy

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    • I take it the node is wireless and not wired? How far away from the router is the node? What is your Internet provider speed and what speed are you getting from the node

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      • Hi John Paul,

        I’m not sure if your reply was for me or not, and you might have seen in my next reply to Dong that I have now got issues with constant weak signal to my 2nd node even when placed next to it.

        My original setup that I couldn’t find network on my work laptop on is 140MBps with an ISP in the UK of EE. My 2nd node was about 25 ft away and not wired. Speed tests were giving me 130+mbps everywhere in house. I’m still getting 140 in rooms near to main node but the 2nd node is not giving much help as now getting less than 20 download in room of 2nd node and room on from this, however what’s weird is I’m still getting 20 upload, even in furthest away room.

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        • I have my node about 40 feet away through two walls from the router and it’s only dropped out once. Speed is the same as from router when in the room of node.

          I tried resetting everything the other day because an iPad was dropping out(actually both iPads from different generations drop out occasionally but nothing else does). This dropped the speed of both router and node by 2/3rds and that lasted the whole day before going back to normal the next day. I’m with Virgin and there were no reported problems with the line.

          When you set the node up did you have it right next to router? Also, I’m not sure if the node uses separate channels but maybe try changing a channel in case the area is making that channel congested.

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        • Hi Andy, yes, it was for you, thanks. Dong recommended a wired setup for me using dual band routers which I may end up doing. That said it’s not the just convenient solution as I’d have to run the wires on the outside which I’m not keen on aesthetically.

          So the wireless backhaul is the way I was hoping to explore but your experience gives me pause (something else might be happening). That said, is your node on the same floor?

          Unfortunately my house has lots of walls, 3 levels, and the ISP drop is at the corner of my house and after reading Dongs article on how to set up a router, I realize that might not be the best location. So I might give this a go and perhaps place the main router on the middle floor (center of the outside wall given the Omni directional nature of the signal), and wireless node on the second level, which is about 18ft away vertically / horizontally….. The way our electronic equipment is, most of the main devices that require the most bandwidth will be mostly within a 10 to 15 foot range, even if through standard walls I’m figuring I’ll get respectable bandwidth. It’s also interesting is I think I will separate the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands and connect my smart devices and anything not bandwidth intense to the 2.4 GHz band while using the 5 GHz band for anything I want maximum bandwidth on

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  8. Hello Dong

    Thanks for this excellent review. I am considering them for my new home. Here is my setup:
    1 GBit internet connection.
    4 bedrooms over 2 floors, all have a wired connection to a central switch in my home, unfortunately only Cat 6 cables (not 6a).

    As you see, Wifi backhaul is not important for me, since I will be using wired as much as I can, but I want to have decent wifi speed in every room, on both floors.

    Would you recommend rather another set of access points which are even faster to create the mesh wifi?

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  9. Hi Dong,
    I bought a Asus RT-AX88U and tried to set up mesh with RT-AC68U as a node with ethernet backhaul.
    It was very hard getting them to pair and the node kept dropping.
    I tried stock firmware on both and Merlin Firmware on both.
    Super frustrated….. About to return AX88U
    (RT-AC68U works like a charm in AP Mode)
    But I like the concept of USB wlan fall back and so I am willing to give asus one more chance.
    This time I think I will go with ZenWifi-AX
    So I had a few questions…
    1. Did they ever release the 160Mhz Fronthaul support?
    2. What’s the difficulty level for setting up ethernet backhaul mesh? I donot want smart connect and can enable the 2nd 5G band for Client. Is such a setup stable?
    3. Can I pair RT-AC68U as 2nd mesh node with the ZenWifi or it is going to be same issues.
    4. Is there any other mesh system that has
    a. 160 Mhz client access
    b. USB Wlan fallback
    c. Ethernet backhaul

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  10. Hello Dong, thanks you for your review. I’am considering to buy the ZenWiFi ax. My setup is the following. I appreciate your advice.
    I have a Huawei 659 gateway router which I can’t replace. (The h659 has 7 ports, 1 Wan, 2 ethernet network ports, 2 ethernet IPTV ports and 2 IP phone ports.) The WiFi signal is too weak to cover the whole home. Connected to the h659 is a HP 1920s switch and a cat. 6 patch panel. I have a ethernet connection in every room. How best to integrate the ZenWiFi system in my network? Thank you in advance for your advice. Kind regards.

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  11. Hi Dong, thank you so much for the thorough review!
    I’m currently using 2x Google WiFi with powerline backhaul in my 1300 sq ft apartment with brick inner walls, and the pucks fail to maintains the connections on the Gbps fiber. I have ~40 devices connected, with 3-4 devices in video conferences at a time.
    I’m also building now my new 1800 sq ft apartment (with brick inner walls as well), that should be ready in 2 years, and there I’ll have a CAT-7 backhaul.

    Would you recommend I went for the XT8? I saw that the Linksys MX10 will be sold for $500 in Black Friday, so just $50 above the XT8. Is it worth the difference?

    Thank you!

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  12. Hi Dong,

    Can I connect the XT8 router to my modem using a USB to RJ-45 cable and use the USB port as my primary (and only) WAN? Thus freeing up the 2.5G WAN for ethernet backhaul?

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  13. I have a single XT8 that I’m using for an AP. Wondering if it makes sense to try and have the XT8 allocate the 5G-2 radio more than the 5G-1 radio, since the 5G-2 radio is 4X4 and would seem to have more potential throughput than the 2X2 5G-1 radio? I had thought that this would be built into the XT8 firmware, since it makes sense given the context. But I do see the 5G-1 radio being used more than the 5G-2, so I’m looking for a way to change this.

    Since I’m using 5GHz. SmartConnect on the XT8 AP, would fiddling with this allow the 5G-2 radio to be used more? If so, do you know which variables I should fiddle with? If not, is there anything else I can do to get the XT8 to use the 5G-2 radio more within the constraint of having only one SSID? Along this same line, I’ve been trying to find some decent documentation on how to tune SmartConnect and haven’t found it yet.

    Thanks for your help, really appreciate you sharing your experience!

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  14. Have an RT-AX88U and an XT8 here. Using the XT8 in AP mode, connected via MoCA to the AX88U. Works pretty well, but don’t see the 5GHz.-2 radio being used at all at this point. It was initially, but now it isn’t. Wondering what I can do to get the 4×4 5GHz-2 radio to get used more to share the load. I should mention that I’ve tried both tri-band smart connect and 5GHz smart connect, and neither one seems to use the second 5GHz. radio.

    Any ideas what I might do?

    Thanks!

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    • You should see the XT8’s 2nd 5GHz band in AP mode, Roger. If not, you can set it up as a router (in a double nat setup at first) then switch it to AP mode. Of course, make sure you use it with the latest firmware.

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      • Okay, I switched the XT8 to “5GHz. smart connect” and turned off the 2.4GHz. radio that I’m not using anyways. Now I’m seeing both 5GHz. radios in use again. I’m going to keep monitoring it of course, but I think that this one’s done and dusted.

        Thanks.

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        • Good call, Sven! I mean if you have extra routers laying around, it’s fun to try the beta out. Otherwise, your family might get very upset with you.

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          • I purchased two nodes to use in conjunction with my Verizon router/modem only to find out that they are not compatible. Both ASUS and Verizon support said would need to set up as a bridge that way Verizon would be used to support FIOS TV functionality.

            My question as I wanted to use the two nodes to extend coverage in my house am I better off getting another router to bridge with my Verizon router and then put my nodes where I want them or purchase another ZenWifi AX node?

  15. I just bought a set of XT8s. Not that I have a lot of WiFi 6 devices, but because the wireless backhaul is very powerful (4800Mbit). All WiFi 5 routers did not have a fast wireless backhaul as the XT8. After installing it, the reception in my whole house is perfect. I get around 450MBit, with a 500MBit subscription (on Docsis 3.0). Of course, outside the speed drops to 200MBit, but is still fast enough. I love the security features and parental controls. It even has a feature to have a dual WAN option, for fail-over or load balancing. All in all I really recommend these routers.

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  16. From reading the review and performance, I am not sure I understand the difference between the RT-AX92U in a 2-pack ($399) versus the ZenWiFi XT8 ($449). It seems that when you reviewed the former, you said that it lost WiFi 6 due to dedicating the wireless backhaul. But is seems that this model (XT8) does the same. Can you clarify and also explain other than looks, why you might choose one over the other when they are close in price? Thank you!

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      • Thank you for the quick reply!

        I didn’t understand enough about the 5GHz-2 concept and how it uses the radios to understand how the XT8 was different to know that the 5GHz-1 is somehow WiFi6 on the XT8.

        I had actually called ASUS directly prior to my post and they said the difference from a WiFi perspective was only in internal versus external antennas and some software differences in the firewall.

        I think you probably know more about this than their rep since you got into the detail about how the band is used.

        If I read your reviews and comments properly, it seems like the hardware in the RT-AX92U is capable to run like the XT8, but a potential firmware update aside, it doesn’t run the radio that way currently. Hopefully I got this right?

        I actually ordered both systems since the ZenWiFi XT8 is on back order and I’ll be able to see if it makes a difference in my environment.

        I have a follow up question:
        My current setup is a real RT-AC68U with two additional T-Mobile TM-AC1900 flashed as RT-AC68Us in an AiMesh network. Would you repurpose any of the old equipment or keep them off to avoid slowing down the network versus using only the new RT-AC92U or XT8?

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        • Mixing AC and AX broadcaster is not a good idea, Daryl, in a wireless mesh setup. If you have wired backhaul, the AX routers you mentioned might not make any difference at all.

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  17. Hi Dong, Great review. I just purchased the 2 pk of the Asus Zenwifi AX and I set it up but I am getting REALLY low numbers according to Ookla and my own test (moving a 3GB file from Desktop to laptop). I am getting about 200Mbps according to Ookla Speedtest with my Google Pixel 2 and my Asus Chromebook and only about 111Mbps with my Asus ROG Laptop (all fairness the laptop is about 10yrs old). I have FIOS internet with 1Gig up and down and when I run Speedtest with my desktop (hardwired to the router) I am getting about 900Mbps so the issue seems to be with the wireless portion of this setup. I did the firmware update after I set up my network, I then reset to factory and set it up again. I did the set up through the webUi and not the app. I tried searching online for anyone else that has this issue and I haven’t found anything yet. I am hoping you may be able to shed some light on this for me. Thanks.

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  18. Hi Dong, I already have 3 XT8s connected via wired backhaul. I need to add another AIMesh point for a dead spot and that will not be in Ethernet I am afraid. You already answered that I can have a mix of Ethernet and WiFi backhaul which is great. However due to budget, I am considering a cheaper RT-AX55 ( less than half the price of a single XT8!) Still a WiFi6 router but significantly less powerful. Will that cause me any issues?
    Thanks

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          • Hi Dong – thanks and sorry for checking in again but you are ever so helpful 🙂

            Prime Day here in the UK and Amazon has discounted heavily the older ZenWIfi, the CT8. I only need one unit which comes in at £130 compared to £230 for the XT8. Not terribly bothered about Wifi6 at this point. Are there any terrible disadvantages having a mix of AC and AX units other than performance obviously?

  19. One thing I’d be very curious to hear your opinion on, and which I seldom see commented on in any reviews, is the general stabililty of router software from various vendors over time. I’ll avoid biasing your response by not giving my opinion, but there are several very well known vendors which I now avoid like a plague because while the routers work great out of the box, their software quality control sucks. In reading various reviews and bulletin boards, you inevitably sees comments to the effect that people need to re-boot their routers with ridiculous frequency due to WiFi bands malfuctioning, dropping out, ISP connection failing and manual DHCP renews being required, etc., etc. Virtually all reviewers tend to measure performance and features measured after re-booting, and I see very few comments on the ability of routers to simply continue to work reliably and at boot-time performance levels over weeks and months. I’m about to dump yet another relatively recent high performance router because it’s reliability simply sucks and I’m tired of re-booting it with regular frequency. So I’m really curious if you have any comments of specific router vendors who not only make great products that perform well at review time, but who seem to actually produce quality firmware that that works reliably without rebooting for long periods of time, and also who seem to lead the pack on getting relatively frequent firmware updates that fix reported problems sooner rather than later. Add to that, companies that actually have customer service organizations that actually seem interested in hearing about reliability issues and who response to those issues isn’t simply something like “reset the router” or “reload the firmware”. As one who has worked extensively with both consumer and enterprise class equipment, this is one case where the QC on consumer grade networking software simply is pathetic in comparison to enterprise systems (but of course sells for a fraction of the cost).

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  20. Hi Dong…I have 3 XT8s working rather well between then and I recently installed a wired backhaul. Instantly my WiFi speeds increased to 500mbs plus on my OnePlus 8 Pro after your suggestion to expose the WiFi6 WiFi network.

    As it happens one of my external Nest cameras is latching onto the wrong XT8 for some reason and is saying a weak signal. No disconnections, just a weak signal affecting video quality.

    I cannot run another Ethernet cable there but if I was to buy another XT8 can I use the WiFi6 as backhaul on that one, i.e. having 1 as a router, 2 on wired backhaul and another on wireless backhaul?

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  21. Hi Dong,
    I purchased a pair of Asus XT8 today, and I planned to use it with an RT-AC68P I already had as an AiMesh. I have wired networking, so I set up the AC68P as the main router. I ran a firmware update, but then both XT8’s dropped from 80MHz 5GHz coverage to 20MHz 5GHz. In the AC68P, the width was still set to 80MHz, so I didn’t understand what was going on, and I decided to set them up in AP mode instead, since I couldn’t access the settings in AiMesh mode. When I did this, one of the routers wouldn’t let me log in through the admin page, so I tried a factory reset. This led to a boot loop and I tried firmware restoration and hard reset, but it is now restarting every 2 minutes and I can’t pull it out of that loop. Have you heard any reports of this happening? And if I’m going to use them in AP mode, is there a better Wi-Fi 6 alternative? I have to return these units now so I’m considering a different model instead. I was using the Orbi RBK50 previously, but we switched to 1 gig fiber and I wanted Wi-Fi 6 to take advantage of the speeds.

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    • That’s odd. But you shouldn’t use the XT8 when you have wired backhaul. Get a couple of dual-band AiMesh router or an XD4 set. By the way, getting Wi-Fi 6 doesn’t mean you’ll get the Gagabit Wi-Fi out of it. More here.

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      • Thanks for your reply, Dong. I just got Ethernet terminated a few days ago with the fiber install, so I hadn’t thought of using dual-band before. I understand about the Wi-Fi 6 and gigabit, but I have seen some great improvements, going from ~300-500Mbps on AC to ~600-800Mbps using Wi-Fi 6, which is good enough for me. Do you see Wi-Fi 6 clients going beyond 2×2 to 3×3 or 4×4 in the near future? I’d like to future-proof the network now.

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  22. I’m not sure I understand your statement:
    “Also, you’ll need to have a second node unit before you can see the value of this port. With a 2-pack, the speed is limited by the other Gigabit ports anyway.”
    What is the added value of using a 3-unit setup?

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    • Just use some imagination, Dan. With a 2-pack, there’s no way you can plug TWO multi-gig wired devices into the system since one of the routers already works as the WAN port.

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      • Ahhhh… I was assuming that with WiFi backhaul enabled, you could use both the 2.5g ports for clients. But if they had thought of that, they would have needed one of the 1g ports to WAN/LAN also.
        That’s disappointing.

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      • Hi, Dong, extremely good information and review. Quick simple question. I have 2 ac5300’s setup in mesh config. I want to expand and buy a 2-pack (XT-8). Would you hookup an XT-8 or an AC5300 to the main internet router? I will have 3 of the 4 routers on a wired back haul as well.

        Thanks- Andy

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          • Thanks! I have one more question. You mentioned the best way to connect mesh nodes was “around” the main router. I have a situation where I need to extend coverage in a linear manner from a node. The last node (farthest from the main router) jumps from connecting to the main router to a MUCH closer node. The closer node has a wired back haul. My wireless works much better when the farthest node connects to the much closer node, not the main router (week connection). Can I force a node to connect to my choice for it’s mesh connection?

            Thanks!

  23. If any one in the GTA wants to go splits on the two pack let me know. I just want to use one as an AP, I don’t need both and frankly can’t afford both lol.

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  24. I see there was a recent firmware up: 3.0.0.4.386_25790-gd414187. I applied the update and everything is working fine, but I’d like to know what changed and if others are having luck with this update, too.

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    • Hello,

      On my second Aimesh upstrairs, I have some problems with connecting macbook air 2020, it does not received an IP number from the DHCP.

      I need to switch of the Aimesh router upstairs, and switch it back on than it works.

      The strange is other devices like camera etc are connected but not the macbook air.

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  25. Hi Dong. Thanks for the review. Helped make the decision to get one!

    Just a couple of questions as my expertise runs to being able to plug in and follow basic instructions. The speeds that you tested showed over 800Mbps but later you mentioned you could get your full 300Mbps at 70 feet away. Are these separate tests?

    I haven’t split my two bands but noticed that moving about 20 feet away into the garden my usual speed 0f over 350Mbps dropped to around 50. Following some suggestions in your other articles, I changed the channel too 11 instead of allowing it to choose and also (I assume it was connecting to the 2.5 band)frequency at 20mhz which immediately changed my speed to an average 200Mbps in the same spot. Are there any other suggestions to maybe get full speed? Not the most important thing as it’s unlikely I will need or use full speed anyway!

    Thanks again for all your great articles

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  26. Good review. Seriously considering purchasing one, but have several questions you may be able to answer:
    1) do you know of any issues with using one’s primary wired GbE switch, in my case a Cisco 26 port GbE switch (same one that will connected to the primary router for wired ethernet hosts) as the interconnect for a wired mesh interconnect instead of a point to point wired connection? Not worried about sharing gigabit port on primary router since virtually all of my high bandwidth traffic is between wired hosts on switch which will remain local to switch and never see the router port.
    2) the cellular modem (either USB modem or RJ45 connection to a spare Android cellular phone) is an intriging Internet backhaul option. Read the manual, but can’t tell: can you configure this as a fallback WAN interconnect in case the primary wired WAN connection fails, or can it only be used as a primary WAN interconnect (or on simultaneously with the primary WAN wired interconnect). I have Comcast Mobile service, so having an extra cellular phone doesn’t cost me anything monthly except for bandwidth used, so being able to use this solely for emergency fallback is intriging as long as no traffic will use the cellular backup unless wired WAN connection is down.

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    • 1. Check out this post on home network basics, Randall. I’m a bit confused in try to understand what you’re trying to say. Then, since you have wired backhaul, there’s no need to use tri-band hardware. check out this post on AiMesh.
      2. Again, I think you used “backhaul” as something else… But Dual-WAN generally means you can use both Internet connection at the same time for either load balancing (faster speed) or fail-safe (high availability).

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      • Sorry for the confusion. My first question was basically can you use an existing GbE ethernet switch (that is also used for other wired ethernet connections) to also interconnect the routers in the mesh (instead of a dedicated point to point wired link or the second 5GHz radio). I would rather do this instead of using the second 5GHz radio to link the routers in the mesh or running a dedicated point to point link, so that it is available for a second 5GHz named SSID Wifi network.

        My second question was precisely can you use the dual-WAN solely for fail-safe operation and not have it also used for load balancing. I don’t see anywhere in the manual how you configure the USB/RJ45 attached cellular device solely for fail-safe (i.e., I don’t want any traffic on it except for backup in the case of wired WAN failure.

        Hope this clarifies what I was asking.

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        • Hi Randall,

          You can use a switch to connect the routers in a mesh, but it depends on your ISP connection. Your ISP gateway/modem needs to be connected directly to a router, and not a switch, otherwise (if it’s a modem) you will run into NAT issues, or (if it’s a router) you can end up with devices on a different subnet.

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  27. Hi Dong,

    I’ve got an AX89X that I want to use as my main router in an Ai Mesh network. What’s the difference between the XT8 and AX6100 when added as nodes in Ai Mesh? Both are tri-band so suitable to use with wirless backhaul if one of the nodes is wired to the main router. The AX6100 two pack is a fair bit cheaper.

    Thanks for your help!
    Derek

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      • That’s understood but I was hoping to go wired from the AX89X to one of the XT8 nodes and them chain from the wired XT8 node to the wireless node using the dedicated 5 GHz wireless backhaul. Would this work?

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        • Read the post, Derek, you’ll find the answer there. And no, the router unit controls the entire mesh. But you can set up a pair of the XT8 in the AP mode to have dedicated backhaul in between them.

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          • Hi Dong,

            I purchased a GT-AX11000 router and a pair of XT8 routers. I’ve set them up in an AiMesh star topology with the ROG as the router and the XT8 as nodes with one wired and one wireless backhaul. At the ROG I get 850 Mbps down / 600 Mbps up over wireless on my cell phone. At both nodes, I’m seeing about 50 Mbps down / 100 Mbps up on the same cell phone (note that I confirmed I was connected to the corresponding node). I would have expected much better speed at the node with a wired backhaul. I’ve confirmed the Ethernet connection to the XT8 node is good by performing a wired speed test on a laptop (750 Mbps down / 500 Mbps up). Am I doing something wrong? Is this normal?

  28. After reading some of the reviews/posts on this site, and with Dong’s advice, I bought a couple of the XT8s to give me better bandwidth across my rented apartment that has thick concrete walls. I thought I’d share the experience with you folks in case it is helpful:

    * Setup was a breeze. I already have a dedicated firewall device so I put my main router into access point mode and set the other unit as a mesh.
    * A couple of weeks later I bought a third unit to add to the mesh. Installed without problems.
    * Fast forward a couple of months, and suddenly the connection keeps dropping between the mesh nodes and the main router. Not great when I am working from home, and it happens a couple of times per hour.
    * Scratching my head as to what to do, and worrying about my expensive mistake about buying three of these units, I put on my detective hat. I made sure the firmware was up to date, I turned off “smart connect” and used two separate networks, I switched around the mesh and main router units. I tried moving the units around. Nothing helped. It seemed that it was a problem of the mesh units dropping the wireless backhaul connection as the main router never dropped its internet connection.
    * I installed “WiFi Explorer” on my mac computer. I found the MAC address of my wireless backhaul by connecting to the main router’s web interface through my browser, and searched for the network in the WiFi Explorer using its MAC address.
    * I found that there were a few networks that had “Asus Tek” as the vendor. I knew that they weren’t all mine. One thing that was common with these other non-hidden networks and mine, was that they shared the same channel (visible from the “Channel” column).
    * So I went back into the router web interface to look for the channel settings for the wireless backhaul. I saw that it is set to “Auto” by default. So I changed it to a different number to the channel that I saw in WiFi Explorer. It also happens that in Wifi Explorer there aren’t any other networks using this channel.
    * I repeated the process in the web interfaces of all three routers, ensuring they were all on the same channel. Restarted them all.
    * Boom. No more backhaul dropping out! It has been stable since. My theory is that someone upstairs/downstairs bought the same router and they are interfering on the same channel.

    I hope this helps someone!

    Dan

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  29. Dong, just installed the XT8. Encountered a problem during smart detect. With my laptop only 6 feet away from the main router located in a closet, the laptop would try and connect to it, but message was “could not connect to internet”. Similarly my wifes laptop and her kindle could not connect, located about 30 feet from the main router. We tried connecting near the backhaul node about 75 feet away, and her kindle could connect. To resolve this tech support had me turn off smart connect and separate into three bands with different names and passwords. I can connect now in my office 6 feet away from the router but speeds are only about 65 mbps for both laptops at varying distances whereas lan cable is 900 mbps. All bands have about same low speed. Firmware is most recent version. I called tech support again and they said closet wall was the problem. That’s apparently not right as I have had wireless speeds in 270 or more range with ATTs router. Any insights? Thank you.

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  30. Hi Dong

    Just picked up a pair of XT8s and an extra single unit XT8. All paired ok but i am getting some significant stability issues. Only 3 days in but i am considering returning. So far a couple of reboots, a nest camera disconnecting when it has line of sight of 10ft from one of the mesh points and my one and only Wifi 6 device sometimes it tests at 200Mb/s and other times at 1 or 3Mb/s. What gives?,My connection is 1GB down and 100 up. I dont expect this speed everywhere but i expected a bit more stability.

    Did not change any default settings.

    If i return it i am thinking of heading for the Unifi Dream Machine but not sure what AP to pair it with as i need some elsewhere in my home.

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      • Hi Dong – they were brand new units so i dont think a reset to default is necessary as it was set up from scratch. The third unit was also new and it needed a firmware update on day 1 – but not from out the box or during setup which was a bit strange.

        This evening we were having a Duo Call which worked great, but in the meantime our phones, tablets and google nest hubs were disconnected from the wifi!! But the video call on the chromebook was perfect! That is weird!

        All nodes have been updated now to latest firmware so will give them another week or so but not very happy to be fair.

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          • Hi David…yes I am now upgraded on all 3 units to the latest June firmware.

            I am using a OnePlus 8 Pro that is WiFi 6 and sometimes I will get a connection speed in the KBs let alone MBs! Then a few minutes later my connection will revert back to 200+ MBs!!

            My MacBook refused to connect and had to restart it a few times. Yesterday during a Duo call on a Chromebook all the other devices lost connectivity. My Nest Driveway camera keeps disconnecting for no reason (line of sight) and the list goes on.

            Maybe my One Plus phone is the issue but the fact my MacBook would not connect and now I have an older Windows machine that won’t pick up the WiFi and even my Pixelbook Go refused to connect and had to turn WiFi on and off. This is all behaviour I have not had to do since 802.12g let alone Ax!!!

            I have someone coming to install Ethernet in key locations around the house and that may improve things but then if you have Ethernet…any decent router will perform.

            Will reset everything today and give it another 24 hours but my patience is running very thin.

            I am in the UK and for me this was a £630 purchase!

  31. Hi Dong,
    Great review. I bought the 2 pack XT8’s a few months ago. So far they have been pretty stable with a wireless backhaul. My question is, I have a 3 storey house and the main line comes in the 1st floor. The units are placed in 1st and 2nd floor but I find the wifi signal is not strong on the 3rd floor. Streaming movies on 3rd floor gets choppy sometimes. I’m contemplating another 2 pack of XT8’s (can’t buy one unit in Canada) or should I go with AX11000? Is wireless backhaul with 2 XT8’s and AX11000 stable?

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  32. Dong,

    Any idea why the XT8 is out of stock everywhere that I’ve looked. It obviously a great system but I didn’t know if there were any short term supply issues or if it would be protracted

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  33. Thanks for this great review, i read it several times
    I’ve a discount today, and i was going to buy and before a read ALL comments … almost 6 months after being released this WIFI 6 Mesh system doesn’t seems to be stable !!!
    So i’m wondering if i’m going to buy or wait until next black Friday to buy a discounted Orbi RBK753 (or a stabilized XT8 ?)

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    • It works fine, David. I’ve used one from day one without any problems. The key is don’t mess around too much with the settings. There are many of them and they are tempting.

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  34. Hello Dong, thank you for another great review from you. im still unsure because of my predicament. I have an cat 6 running from one side of the house to another. I need wifi in the loft (that doenst have cat cable) for security cams so im thinking i will need 3 units, ground, 1st & loft. is it better to have 3-off AX XT8, or 1-off GT-AX11000 downstairs and 2-off AX XT8 (only one wired) or could i bring a RT-AX92U into the equation. RT-AX92U £166,GT-AX11000 crazy money £360, AX XT8 2 pack £400 single £220? thank you in advance.
    Regards,
    Warren.

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  35. Hello just wanted to give you a quick heads up.
    The text in your article seem to be running off the screen in Opera.
    I’m not sure if this is a format issue or something to do with web browser compatibility but I figured I’d post to let
    you know. The layout look great though! Hope you get the
    issue fixed soon. Many thanks

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    • Thanks for letting me know, Maribel. Yes, Opera has a lot of issues and is not on the list of my supported browsers. Try Brave, Chrome, Edge, or Firefox instead.

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  36. Excellent review Dong. I currently have two Asus AC88u’s running in AI Mesh. I recently stepped up to 1 Gig fiber and want to start taking advantage of wifi-6. so i was thinking of upgrading to Zen wifi AX. Would there be any benefit to using my AC88u’s with the Zen wifi AX set or should i try use the Zen alone until maybe i could get an Ax11000 down to he road. thanks

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  37. Hi Dong,
    I currently have GT-AC5300 as my main router with 02 XT8 Zenwifi as nodes (5Ghz2 as a dedicated backhaul).
    To exploit full usage of AX band, I am thinking of upgrading/replacing GT-AC5300 with AX-11000…and 02 XT8 Zenwifi will remain as nodes.
    Will this set-up provide better signal coverage / speeds, I am not an avid gamer though, so game related settings take a back seat in terms of preference.
    Can you advise any alternative main router to complement my two XT8 as nodes.

    Regards

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      • Hi Dong,
        Thanks
        Finally Asus AX11000 was delivered, have setup as main router and two XT8 as nodes.
        One thing that’s puzzling me is….
        When I added XT8 as nodes, both nodes got connected to AX11000 is ‘star’ format. But when I reboot any of the nodes, the node then auto connect in daisy-chain mode (AX11000>XT8>XT8).
        Is there any way to force the ‘star format’, or the system is supposed t auto-select the topology by itself to deliver the best performance.

        Thank you….

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  38. I’ve read through many, many posts and read numerous reviews and thought I was sold on the Zen Wifi, until I read all of these comments. We are upgrading to Cox Gigablast as we’ve been having lots of internet issues. Our current gateway won’t work for that, so we are getting a new modem and router separately. The router part I’m struggling with. We have a two-story 2800 sq ft house with lots of devices and four people at home (one who is hard wired to the gateway for online gaming). I thought one Zen Wifi unit might be enough coverage and that I could add a node later if needed. But if its buggy and has issues that will be a problem as I have no networking knowledge. Also, we cannot do wired backhaul (which we presumably wouldn’t need with only one unit anyway). Budget-wise, I was hoping to stay around $250, but will spend more if needed to have the coverage, speed and reliability we’ve been lacking Is the Zen Wifi the one or should I look at a standalone router instead? The AX86u got good reviews and might be perfect, but it’s not out yet and I’m not sure we can wait another month. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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      • Thanks for your reply. I can get two XT8 for $400 (or 1 for 250) or Costco has the Orbi RBK753S 3pk for $440. I know this a version of the “budget” Orbi , but given the similar price, which is the better overall value for speed, coverage, reliability, features? Also, can our current Netgear AC1900 combo modem/router be used in any way with Orbi or Zen Wifi to provide more wired connections (or for any other purpose on the new network)? Thanks again for your insight!!

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  39. I was surprised too. But it seems like as soon as I get about 15-20 feet away from one of the nodes, with a couple of walls (drywall) in between, many of my devices switch to 2.4ghz. These are wifi 5 devices. I’m not sure if wifi 6 clients would exhibit the same behaviour.

    The backhaul between the nodes is showing up as ‘Great’ in the ASUS UI.

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    • @ John – See my other comments and feedback in the comments section under the name “Rocky”. I have had the system in place for over a month with ZEROOOO issues. GT-AX11000 Main and two XT8 nodes (Dong’s favorite combo recommendation is what I went with). Pricey but worth the money if you have this for 10 yrs.

      Recently, I updated firmware on GT-AX11000 two days ago and still no issues. Important to note that I have my devices on scheduled reboot every other day at night. Next morning, all devices function normally.

      I also changed my laptop clients to Wifi 6 buying Intel AX200 cards. Have all phones with wifi 6. Even Wifi 5 clients have no issues.

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  40. Hi Dong,

    I’ve got a pair of these in my 3200 Sq Ft (wireless backhaul), and find that there are still a few places in the house where the 5Ghz band doesn’t reach (the devices fall back to 2.4).

    I’d like to get another node, but don’t think they sell these individually. Would I be better off getting another set of XT8’s (and having 4 nodes total), or going with an AX1000? Is there another option I should be looking at? I don’t have the ability to used a wired backhaul.

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      • Thanks Dong. These don’t seem to be available where I’m located (Canada), though it looks like I could get one shipped from the US for an additional $50.

        Given that, the price difference between the third XT8 and an GT-AX11000 would be relatively small. Would there be any performance advantage going with the GT?

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    • I have a AX11000 plus 4 XT8 nodes connected by 2.5G ethernet in AiMesh in a 3450 sq ft house. Overkill? Maybe, but I would rather be 100% sure I’m getting maximum and best coverage than find dead zones in my house.

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    • I’m surprised it doesn’t handle your house … mine is larger and the 5ghz covers the front and the backyard too. I’ve got one unit on top floor towards the front of the house, one unit on main floor towards the back of the house. I am using wired backhaul though and using that free’d up backhaul band as my main 5ghz band for my devices.

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      • I have a 3100 sqft house and my iphone and ipad routinely drop the 5ghz and revert back to the 2.4ghz. my backhaul is wireless. Other than that coverage seems good throughout.

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  41. hello: i have been having troubles with the xt8, but exceeded the 30 day return, so I am stuck with it. If i were to use them in an aimesh with another router, what is the best choice? Ax11000 or ax88u or something else? Live in 3 story house w gigabit connection from fios. Tom

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    • Update it to the latest firmware, Tom. Then reset it and set it up again. Use the web interface (not the mobile app) and refrain from making too many changes. It should work fine now.

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      • I feel like this tip needs to be shared a ton. While it’s totally frustrating, this has saved my Asus AX6000 experience. I was running 3 nodes and having nothing but issues. Nightly reboots were not fixing. We were seeing a ton of drops, a ton of network blips. (a ton may not be a proper metric). I switched back to my eero for a while. But I didn’t want that to be long term. Was about to go buy the Orbi (and I’m still tempted to) but I reset the entire group, redid the mesh. Probably overkill but I did each node as a standalone and then reset them again. And then redid the entire solution. We’ve been absolutely rock steady ever since, and my performance to my clients has improved.

        I will say this is why I’m still looking at leaving as it seems firmware is an issue here. I don’t want to rebuild my network with every update. But I will say this: DON’T use the app. Just wire in and use the web page. It’s much better.

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  42. It is supposed to. ATT tech did there test and showed 930Mbps download and upload. But, when I plug in my laptop directly to a LAN port it only gets or shows 245-394Mbps download speeds. I’m skeptical of their equipment but maybe I’m a conspiracy guy for large cable internet companies.

    I’ve asked to replace it with a different modem and they continue to send the same Pace 5268AC time and time again. I’m sending back two of them today.

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  43. I’ve had the XT8 running in the house for a couple weeks now. Coverage is great. Some issues with devices transferring from node to node but not really an issue. Speed is good. Now if I could only get my dang AT&T gigabit to spit out more speed than 250-294MB download. This is the same thru wifi or even when hard wire connected to the gateway. Ugh, I’m on my third Pace gateway. 🙁

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  44. I’ve had zero issue since I opened up the 5G-2 network, turned on smart connect for 2.4G and 5G-1, and only have WiFi 6 devices on the 5G-2 network.

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  45. I have a Gigabit internet provider and I am trying to maximize my speeds and coverage, but I also am considering the ease of use/UI. Would you recommend the ASUS ZenWiFi AX or the Ubiquiti Unifi Dream Machine?

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  46. Just an update regarding my old WAN disconnection issue. I can confirm that I have not had that problem for weeks now, after disabling the OpenVPN server in the router. The firmware has not changed at all. So, I think there is a bug or a vulnerability somewhere that is exposed when certain settings are changed, like the enabling of OpenVPN.

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  47. I am having these same issues with my Asus zenwifi. I have had it about 2 weeks and now I am constantly getting reboots/reconnections from my Centurylink modem. Were you able to figure out a solution?

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  48. Does anyone know how many device connections the XT8 system is rated for? I can’t find this spec anywhere.
    Thanks
    Bernie

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    • Like all routers, that’s 253, but it’s impossible to say, Bernie. It’s all depends on usage. If you hear anywhere else a specific number, that’s just a rough estimation (or pure bullshit.) More on that here.

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  49. Hi Mr. Dong.

    Do you remember when I asked you if I can choose between Zenwifi and Orbi 852. Well I have bought the Orbi 852 and it is working great and I am very happy with it compared with the Asus AX92u that I returned for unstable wifi speed. Since I bought the orbi 852 2days ago do speed test regularly. the speed test using Iphone11 which supports Wifi6 and the result from the satalite is great(note that the satalite is not connected by wire to the main orbi router which is also used as an access point.When I did the test it gave me the full speed that I paid for which is 520Mb (Download Speed). So I really would like to thank you for your suggestion^^

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  50. Based on the info here I purchased the XT8 which is replacing a Nighthawk since I’m having trouble with signal in the lower level office.
    I need to setup this to work with my ATT Uverse gigabit service. Anything to do different or can I emulate my netgear setup so to speak.
    Thoughts?

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  51. Nice review! Just to check, I am currently running a couple of AX92U with CAT6 wired backhaul, but still having some blind or weak spots. If I add a couple more XT8 as main, and the older 2 AX92U as satellites (both still running wired backhaul config), will I get WIFI6 @ 2.4Ghz?

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    • No, Chris, only on the 5 GHz-2 band, more on that here. But that doesn’t really matter since the speed on the 2.4 GHz band has been the same (slow) on all new routers. The differences between Wi-Fi 4 and Wi-Fi 6 on this band seem to exist only on paper.

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  53. Day 4 of zero lost connections and continued super fast speeds throughout the 4500 sft home of three levels. GT-AX11000 main in basement with two xt8 on each floor – WIRED backhaul, upnp disabled, WPS disabled, remote access disabled, no trend micro crap – all devices wired and wireless are reporting normal activity. One more thing – unlike my (now returned) Orbi AC which occasionally had trouble switching from node to node, the AIMesh is phenomenal. the switch from node to node for the clients (cell phones and stuff) is seamless.

    As Dong mentioned in response to other post, I did not tinker with any advanced settings too much and I think wired backhaul is helping keep things stable and under control. My experience using asus app has been great.

    I have a TPLink switch to which all wired ethernet connections are plugged in but the two xt8 ethernet WAN wires are plugged directly in to GT-AX11000. I know that Dong mentioned that we could plug them to third party switches for wired backhaul but I did not want to go that route at least for now.

    Lastly, I have a scheduled reboot 4AM everyday FWIW.

    Those of you that are having issues – consider upgrading firmware, resetting all devices, connecting to wired backhaul if possible and then seeing if the issues persist. The setup I have which Dong recommended as perhaps the best combination of zen devices is perhaps also adding to stability.

    Rocky

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  54. To add a bit to the recent good reports here, my issues with the WAN disconnecting have not happened in the last week. One change I did is to disable the OpenVPN in the router, because I noticed in the logs some strange “reset” signals being sent by foreign IPs before the disconnection. My suspicion is that there is a bug in OpenVPN being exploited remotely. But if course, this is quite a far speculation with my limited understanding of those entries in the logs. Question for the other commenters here is: has anyone enabled OpenVPN and noticed any problem with it?

    The other suspicion I have is the ntp queries, someone else claimed there is an issue with ntp queries, and there is an announcement of a recently fixed bug in ntp.org. But the only thing I have done here was to switch to time.google.com for ntp queries, which was prior to the last WAN disconneciton.

    The other change I have made is change the default t 8443 https port of the interface to another port, but I doubt this has any relationship with stability.

    Lastly, I use FIOS/Verizon, and I googled if there is any issue of compatibility with their ONT. I even called the Verizon tech support and they did not have a clue (or logs) of why my router is disconnected to the ONT. I have, anyway, switched to DHCP Frequency = Normal (Default = Aggressive), but this last thing also was prior to the last WAN crash.

    To sum up, my main suspicion is still a bug in the OpenVPN software. Today was my last day I could have returned the XT8 pair, but I am keeping it with the hope it will continue to be stable.

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  55. I was one of the early adopters of this system. I got it from microcenter back in Feb. I had all kind of issues and several tickets and RMA was issued. I sent several logs to ASUS support. The last firmware 25524 resolved all issues and system is super stable now.
    I used to get slow internet , signal drops , issues connecting to WiFi from several devices.
    Back in February iPhones worked well with XT8 but when I add more devices that’s were it start to fail miserably. Also realized when my two kids play games the router slows down and fails to balance resources. Software like smartbyte caused serious connectivity issues with XT8.
    Finally got a call from ASUS and it has been 30 days after the last firmware and it has been perfect so we cancelled the RMA.
    So far I give it 10/10 after the last firmware… very stable. I have 25 devices and very happy with it.

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  56. Indeed. Between a volatile $450 XT8 that “might” work or “might” get rectified in the future and a $700 Orbi that you definitely won’t regret. I think the choice is quite clear.

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  57. Dong is absolutely right. Asus offers so much more value for the money, but if they can’t stabilize the product it’s all in vain. A shame, because if they offered a premium mesh set, with faster throughput and better signal, I’d be the first to sign up. Cost is only an issue when things don’t work well. Apple kept selling a subpar router for years, but it worked well out of the box and without fail.

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  58. Thanks! I was really inclined to get the XT8 because of much better affordability against the RBK852. Speed is not a major concern as my ISP max out at 300Mbps, so signal strength and stability is the bigger concern for me. But looking at the comments, it seems like many people are facing issues with the XT8 (connection drop, non-comm between router and satelite etc). So I got worried there.

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    • I hear you, Chia. I have some friends with the XT8, and they have been OK. I think if you don’t mess around too much, it’s okay. But Asus does need to really work on getting the firmware stabilized.

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  59. I find the Orbi to be much better for overall coverage. I owned the ZenWiFi for over a month and one set didn’t cover nearly as well as a set of the Netgear Orbi does. It may be just me, but I have better wall to wall coverage.

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  60. Apart from speed, how would you rate the difference with Orbi Wifi 6 in actual range coverage especially through walls?

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  61. I’ve had the XT8 one week and it has locked up on me twice. This is using the latest firmware too that I was released on 2nd July so they can’t say I didn’t keep the device updated. Worst part was after the manual reboot of the router, the node lost its security protection so was literally operating as an open access point. Yes, you can connect to it without a passcode (I tried with a new device that had never connected to the network before). As it stands the XT8’s are buggy and potentially security nightmare. Bear in mind I saw the node lose security last week when I had it auto reboot mid week; this is a real issue that should never, ever happen.

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  62. Thank you for answering my questiion. I am going to use it as wirless setup. I tried the AX11000 but i didn’t like the range of it because it was not long enough. so what is the best tri band routers to combine wirlessly to give me the best range and speed between the following (zenwifi ax, Ax92u, Arris Max Pro or any other combination in your point of view ?

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  63. Can You please help me to choose. The long range coverage and high speed system is to buy 2 ax88u routers and connect them together via AImesh is that right? and that would be better than buying the zenwifi?

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  64. Dong, I’ve got 2 x XT8 and a AX88U router. All are wired. Any idea why the list of wired clients connected to each of the XT8s is more than just the clients actually physically connected to those mesh devices? I’m seeing clients appear on the Asus web interface that are connected to the network ports on the router or other switches I have in my wired network.

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  65. Hi, I purchased the Asus Zenwifi AX for my new house for the mesh system since its a big multi-story home. I’m getting AT&T Fiber installed soon and understand that I will have to use their gateway. What’s the best way to set up the mesh Router/Node on top of the gateway? The house is prewired for ethernet. Thanks!

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  66. I’ve read several good reviews for this XT8 Mesh setup – but surprised to read about all the problems.

    As an alternative am I considering the Asus GT-AX11000 router and two ASUS Lyra Trio Mesh nodes – the price is nearley the same. The AiMesh should give me coverage(and ease) and the router a good connection/speed for my NAS.

    Can anyone recommend anything better for the price?
    Thanks….

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  67. I’ve been a staunch supporter of the ZenWiFi AX from the start, and as a developer, understood some of the challenges that ASUS was going through with the release of this system. However, after two months of trying my best to make it work, I jumped back to Netgear. As bad as NG’s customer service is, I actually think Asus is worse.

    That said, I ended up with Netgear’s AX6000 solution because two nodes (router/satellite) accomplished what the Asus ZenWiFi couldn’t do with four nodes – good coverage and high speed in all locations.

    I miss the configurability and features on the ZenWiFi, but in this work from home time, with four kids pulling at bandwidth, I couldn’t deal with the types of drops I’ve experienced this past two months. So, no parental controls, no free protection through TrendMicro, no elegant router set. Just plain ugly but functional.

    For you guys’ sake, I hope all of this gets resolved. Personally, I just don’t have the time or patience to wait that long.

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  68. Hello,

    I install the router last week and my WAN internet was also disconnecting … ik works and later disconnect.

    What I found was the following solution.

    GO to the WAN option.

    DHCP query frequency > I changed it in normal mode .
    Default was it Aggressive mode … but after changed it in normal mode. the Internet WAN is stable.

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  69. Hi Dong,

    Well I am not happy!!!! After a good a start I began to run into trouble with slow internet speed at less then 30% of I should be getting. All was good until I need to update my firmware. Well a very no descript error message keep coming up…” internet cant connect to server, try later after you connect to the internet..??”

    After 12 hours and a few tries I started to get the feeling something was wrong…duh! They said I needed to manually update my firmware. I followed the directions including restoring to factory defaults!!! NOT want I wanted to get into. That is when the problems started.

    After 6 days of only one communication per day (by email) and with no call backs the final determined that I needed to to send in the RT- AX88U for repair!

    Need something that works with good customer service!!

    Carl

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    • Sorry to hear, Carl. I don’t test customer service. But things have been hard for all companies with folks working from home or laid off, etc.

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  70. Hi Dong, yes I used the web interface. Kept the default setting for the first two weeks, and then turned off Smart Connect for the last two weeks. No other settings were changed.

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  71. I bought the XT8 and month ago and have been frustrated ever since! Handoff from one router to the other is inconsistent as you mover around the house.

    Disabled Smart Connect and setup two different SSID’s and now my connection keeps dropping. Very disappointed.

    Do you have any guide with “recommended” settings? Using the latest firmware (3.0.0.4.386_25524)

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    • Sorry to hear, Al. I’d recommend two things:

      1. Do not use the mobile app. I’ve never used it myself. You can use the web interface on the phone’s mobile browser instead.
      2. Do not change the settings for the hell of it. Set the Wi-Fi network up and then leave as much as the default as possible.

      You can reset your router and try those and see.

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  72. I tried 2 times to send a failure report and I am not sure it is taking it, Dong. Please let me know how I can post some logs here. My router collapsed again last night, second time since the purchase 2 weeks ago. I wanted to send some logs maybe someone has an idea what is going on.

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    • Looks like it worked in your previous post. But if there’s more, you can send it to me via a message in the About menu at top of the site, and I’ll update that post for you.

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  73. Dong, a network collapse occured again with ZenWifi (latest firmware 25524). Same symptoms as before. No internet from any device, Wan seems down, link with node is yellow. Rebooting fixes the issue. I have a hard time thinking why you are not having any of the many issues people have reported here. I have another 1-2 weeks to return the product. But I like the connection outside the totally failed status. These are the logs, if you understand what is going on (interruption occurred around 1.50am, I was using internet, and did not fix itself until my reboot in the morning):

    Jun 24 01:24:52 roamast: determine candidate node (D4:5D:64:A1:CA:10)(rssi: -41dbm) for client (C4:9D:ED:04:56:AE)(rssi: -71dbm) to roam
    (repeated 2 times)
    Jun 24 01:25:03 nat: apply redirect rules
    Jun 24 01:25:09 WAN Connection: Ethernet link down.
    Jun 24 01:26:02 roamast: determine candidate node (D4:5D:64:A1:CA:10)(rssi: -41dbm) for client (C4:9D:ED:04:56:AE)(rssi: -71dbm) to roam
    (repeated 10 times with different rssi)
    Jun 24 01:45:59 wlceventd: wlceventd_proc_event(461): eth5: Deauth_ind C4:9D:ED:04:56:AE, status: 0, reason: Deauthenticated because sending station is leaving (or has left) IBSS or ESS (3)
    Jun 24 02:06:05 wlceventd: wlceventd_proc_event(461): eth5: Deauth_ind 46:32:9F:FD:6E:AC, status: 0, reason: Deauthenticated because sending station is leaving (or has left) IBSS or ESS (3)
    Jun 24 02:06:05 wlceventd: wlceventd_proc_event(461): eth5: Deauth_ind 46:32:9F:FD:6E:AC, status: 0, reason: Class 3 frame received from nonassociated station (7)
    Jun 24 02:29:55 wlceventd: wlceventd_proc_event(461): eth5: Deauth_ind 48:D6:D5:0C:0C:20, status: 0, reason: Deauthenticated because sending station is leaving (or has left) IBSS or ESS (3)
    Jun 24 02:30:24 wlceventd: wlceventd_proc_event(497): eth5: Auth 48:D6:D5:0C:0C:20, status: Successful (0)
    Jun 24 02:30:24 wlceventd: wlceventd_proc_event(526): eth5: Assoc 48:D6:D5:0C:0C:20, status: Successful (0)
    Jun 24 04:29:07 WATCHDOG: (FAUPGRADE)(auto_firmware_check:(6627))retrieve firmware information
    Jun 24 04:29:07 WATCHDOG: (FAUPGRADE)(auto_firmware_check:(6644))no need to upgrade firmware
    Jun 24 04:29:37 WATCHDOG: (FAUPGRADE)(auto_firmware_check:(6627))retrieve firmware information

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  74. I have had the XT8 for 3 weeks and no matter what i have tried, i have not been able to connect to my work’s server through VPN PPTP (PPTP passthrough is on). If I have both my internet provider’s modem/router in router mode (it’s on different subnet so no clashes there), they both crash completely whereas if i change that to modem mode only then the connection cannot be made… I have spoken to ASUS support (they are very slow to respond) and they have not been able to determine the problem…

    Also, the NAS functionality seems to be slightly unreliable, with file transfers often crashing, the time machine function being slow and i have had to reconnect the drive in the time machine preferences 3-4 times so far as it keeps dropping the connection.

    Other than the above, when my modem/router is also working as a router (double nat) i constantly have reconnections and reboots.

    I really wanted to like this and it is really fast when it works, but i don’t think it is reliable enough.

    Have you had any similar experiences while testing? If i were to simply use it as an access point with my internet providers modem/router (fairly bad modem/router) as the only network router would I be slowing down my network? If so, I will be sending it back and maybe going to Ubiquity path.

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  75. Hi Dong, I’ve got a couple of questions on this, if you wouldn’t mind. Firstly, I cannot seem to find the two pack for sale anywhere at the moment but I could buy two single devices (for a similar price). I would want to use them as mesh devices (hard wired) to an RT-AX88U router. I presume the only difference I’ll have with buying 2 x single devices is that I would have to manually add each to the mesh network as they won’t be ‘factory linked’ and I also assume they are identical in the two pack? Secondly, I also have an old RT-AC68U router, which I’m currently using as a mesh device linked to the RT-AX88U (but I still get wifi dead spots – hence the want for 2 x XT8s). My question is whether one XT8 will provide a better coverage than the RT-AC68U I currently have in place. Thanks in advance. Great website!

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  76. HI Dong, as it turns out not so odd. I have had a stable setup for over a month but just today my ethernet ports just quit working. I noticed a speed decrease to my wired devices (1 gig service which usually comes in at ~700Mbps) to around 250 about 3 days ago but now just quit working. I tried reinstalling the latest firmware since a reboot didn’t work. I haven’t reset the modems yet but that’s net. Steve if you are still out there did you resolve things?
    What could cause this problem?
    Carmine

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    • That’s odd, CJ. Try backing up the settings, resetting the routers, and setting it up again. Also, restart your modem.

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  77. Thanks for the review. I am currently using my Asus AC88u as my main router with the AX pair in AP Operating mode because it has the AC88u has more ports and is placed near my patch panel to the rest of my home network. What is the most optimal configuration to get better network performance and Wifi throughput. Should I change from an AP Operating mode to recreate a 3 node Aimesh.

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    • I think you should it the current setup, Jimmy. It allows you to use all bands of the AX. Using the AX in AiMesh with the 88u will turn them into dual-band broadcasters.

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  78. After a long two months with the ZenWiFi AX, I’ve decided to go back to Netgear. Believe it or not, the system was quite stable in the house, but the drop in throughput from my gigabit connection was way too much. I had Comcast here running tests and while I was getting 950Mbps at the source, the highest I could get on any client was 450 (with just one client on the network).

    There’s so much I’m going to miss from the Asus setup, but speed is necessary. We have three people working from home and three others streaming and gaming. The Zenwifi just wasn’t performing well enough for that type of demand.

    The search continues.

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  79. Hi Dong,
    AIprotection used to catch malicious websites on my AX58U. There was a frequent attempt from one of the phones to contact a site which was blocked by the router. Now that I have the ZenWiFi, there is no catching of that same website (the offending phone is still around). Thus, I am not sure malicious site protection is working at all. Can you give me a website that is supposed to be malicious and caught by the protetction system?

    The blocked host by AX58U was something like “link.safessldirect.company”.

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  80. Hello Dong, my Aimesh setup is:

    Main Router GT-AX11000 + 4 units XT8 (total of 5 hardware)

    Questions:

    1) How many more tri-band unit (XT8 or AX92U) can I add ?

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    • I assumed you have just one question, Cy. The answer is none. Five is the recommended amount. However, I’ve tried more and that worked, but don’t use that as the official recommendation. Generally, if you use them in a wireless setup, three is the recommended number.

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  81. Dorian,
    I observed similar behaviour with May 5 log entries.
    Since I upgraded to Firmware Version 3.0.0.4.386_25524, router is stable for last 5 days.

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  82. Dong,

    After testing and using the ZenWifi for about a week now, the router just had a wierd crash. I lost WiFi but also wired connectivity. Led was still white on the router, while the node flashed blue like it was trying to reconnect. Restarting the router fixed the problem, but I wanted to dig a little more on this. I looked at the logs, and there is not much I can find, but I see that at the time of the crash the system log switched from June 16 to May 5, not sure if this is before I restarted or after I restarted the router. I am pasting below the log when the date switches. I can send you the the entire log privately if you want to have a look.

    P.s. WordPress is not letting me post the log, please let me know if I can send privately.

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  83. Thank you Dong. Appreciate your help. I read the link that you shared. So, the issue with Option A GT-AX11000 main router with two XT8 nodes hard-wired to the router (creating a wired backhaul) – is that I will not get a WPA3 in this mesh setup. So future proofing with latest cutting edge technology is not a possibility correct?

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  84. I have read the pages you linked to and have succeeded in finding a DMZ setting in the gateway (isp supplied modem router),I do not believe the plusnet 2704n router has bridge mode. I have turned that on and linked it to the mac address of the xt8.
    The ASUS gui ( web configuration page) now shows WAN IP 192.168.1.1 but lan ip is still 192.168.50.1
    and will not allow 192.168.1.25 (gateway dhcp server is configured with end ip address of 24 and start ip address of 192.168.1.1) the gateways address is 192.168.1.254.
    so despite reading over and over i am clearly a bit stupid.
    should I just give up or am i close.?
    To be honest I had hoped it was all going to be a lot easier than this, i have wired security devices on my network and dont want to reset them to a new ip range and also have to buy a switch as i would be one ethernet port short.

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    • What you see is how it’s supposed to be, P. The LAN IP HAS to be in a different subnet from the WAN’s. That’s the point. Seriously, you need to read and try to understand how things work and NOT just to find proof of how you WANT things to work. The only problem I can see in your situation is, no offense, YOU. Everything works exactly how it’s supposed to do, from how you describe it. Take a break, read stuff again. Don’t assume that you already know. You’re VERY close.

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  85. Hi Dong. thanks to your review I have purchased a set of these.
    Run into an issue that i do not know how to solve though.
    Both ot the xt8 ‘s have an ip address in the range 192.168.50. xx
    where as the modem has an ip address in this range 192.168.1.xx
    as a consequence of course all wired devices connected to the router (not xt8) are inaccessible .
    I have managed to get into the router setup / wan
    and have turned off auto assign and enetered 192.168.1.25 – normal subnet and the gateway ip address
    i have used the google dns server addresses
    then authentication? left blank

    applying these settings seems to work but can you confirm this is correct please?
    thank you for your time.

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      • good grief you had answered my first comment before i had chance to type the second. thank you!
        to be clear, when i say modem i am not referring to either of the xt8 units but the broadband modem supplied by my isp.

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    • update.. i noticed that the lan address was still 192,168.50.1
      so i reset wan to “auto” and tried changing LAN ip address to 192.168.1.25 but that resulted in a message saying “WAN and LAN should have different IP addresses and subnet.”
      I am clearly out of my depth. help please

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  86. I’m not finding any MAC address restrictions, etc…
    All the ethernet ports worked before the update and none of them work after it.
    I hate to go back to a previous firmware, because it’s much more stable, but for working from home, I need access to wired ethernet to do imaging and other items from my home office where the node is placed.

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    • Try backing up your router’s setting, resetting it and see if the ports work, the restoring from the backup. Good luck, Steve. You got a very odd problem there.

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  87. I upgraded a few days ago and I am getting similar results. I used to have to reboot the node a couple times a day and the router automatically rebooted once a night. I haven’t had a problem since I did the upgrade. It’s been staying connected without issue and I haven’t had to reboot either device. The problem I am having is that the couple devices that I have wired to the Ethernet ports on the node and the router are no longer working. It’s like they completely disabled them. Is there a setting in the new firmware to turn them back on? Is anyone else having this issue?
    Thanks much

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    • That doesn’t sound right at all, Steve. Make sure you don’t have some software MAC address restriction or something like that.

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  88. I am running Firmware Version 3.0.0.4.386_25524 for more than 3 days now and Wi-Fi is stable. On previous firmwares routers restarted at least once a day.
    What is your experience?

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  89. Found another hiccup. When TimeSync failed.. the entire thing basically shut down or just became unstable which happens daily. Since changing FROM pool.ntp.org TO time.nist.gov – I’ve had zero errors and issues. This thing can actually run for multiple days without issues. Hallelujah!!

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  90. Hi Dong. SteveC here. Somehow I accidentally updated the firmware on only one of my nodes (not router). Is there a way to downgrade just that node? It is on the latest version and the rest of my system is on an older version that has been functioning well. I am hesitant to update the whole system with all of the issues others have had. Or should I just take a chance and update everything? Thanks!

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    • Just download the previous version and upload it to the unit, Steve. Most of the time the latest firmware works better though, so you can try updating the router, too.

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  91. Dong, thanks for your detailed guidance on XT8 operation. I had read advice that it was best to place all IOT devices on the Guest network. On the slight chance that they might get hacked, and leave your computers exposed. I now have IOT devices on both 2.4 GHz networks; Guest and primary. I am not able to figure out from the XT8 menus how to tell which 2.4 GHz network a device is connected to. I’ve traded email with ASUS support, but have gotten no answer. A crude approach would be to turn off the Guest 2.4 GHz signal, then see which devices continue to operate. Also, from comments I’ve seen that ZenWiFi does not support Guest network on nodes, I’m questioning the value of shifting IOT devices to Guest.

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    • Hi Art. I don’t know who started that rumor and why, probably just so that they could call themselves “experts”. It’s just not true. For one, even if your IoT device is hacked, there’s not much it can do — it’s not a true computer — other than acting as a bot that can send a simple command to another device on the Internet. So yes when the bad guy gets a whole of like hundreds of them they can create a botnet to attack an entity outside of your home. Also, the easiest way to “hack” a device of this type is to use its default user name and password (like admin/admin etc.) Most new IoT devices require you to create a new password before it works, so that’s no longer an issue. On top of that, your Asus router has Network protection that would stop bad signals coming out of, say, your oven.

      Using a separate and isolated Wi-Fi network for your IoTs might create other problems like you can’t connect to it. I’d say just forget about using the Guest network for it. There’s no value in it.

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  92. Thanks Dong, I will leave it as it is now as everything seems very stable.
    Also, something that puzzles me is that the second 5Ghz is not hidden.

    1) Does that mean with this wireless setup there is no Wireless Backhaul ?
    2) Should I hide that second 5Ghz SSID ?
    3) Are there any specific steps I need to do to activate a Backhaul ?

    Thank for your help

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  93. Dong, you are completely right to suggest the user should not beat the head to get good speed numbers. But understanding the problems in real life use would take weeks, with scenarios of streaming, WhatsApp calls, file transfers, etc. I was hoping to shoot a good solution once and for all, and learn more in the process to prepare myself for future needs. But looks like it is not easy. I don’t even understand how does a client device get the signal to switch bands and which device obeys that “protocol” and which doesn’t. Is there a standard for all this?

    Many thanks.

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    • At the early time of dual-band, Smart Connect worked pretty well with Wi-Fi 4, Dorian. My take is there was a built-in threadhold of speed in Mbps where a client should consider switching. As Wi-Fi gets faster, that threshold is easily achieved,and now clients just connect to whichever band with stronger signals, which is almost always the 2.4 GHz. Of course this varies from one client to another, but if you wanna make sure, separate the two bands by not using Smart Connect.

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  94. Good morning Dong: I’ve just installed GT-AX11000 as the main router. The setup was smooth and given my whole house is networked to Cat6a, about 50% of my devices are hard-wired. So in my about 4000 sft home with router in my basement media closet, I am getting great to good network range even in previously known trouble areas of the house. While I can make do with this router for a while, there is a need for mesh addition.

    Option A: GT-AX11000 main router with two XT8 nodes hard-wired to the router (creating a wired backhaul).
    Option B: GT-AX11000 main router with two RT-AX92U nodes hard-wired to the router (creating a wired backhaul).

    However, there is no Wifi 6 on 92U for 2.4 ghz band. Do you recommend Option A then?

    Also, I did not see the “wired backhaul” option in GT-AX11000 and I am guessing that it will show up once I change it to AiMesh mode along with adding the nodes and removing Smart Connect. Is my understanding correct?

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  95. Dong, thanks again for your advice. Got the XT8 two days ago, and did two firmware upgrades that day (I was perhaps the first to note that 25524 firmware in th emiddle of the night, and thought it was a virus as it wasn’t posted on the website). Now I am playing around with various configurations, the speeds seem better than AX58U, so returned the little one today.

    I noticed some weird inconsistencies, but so far even having both nodes in the same room does not cause a problem; the switch from one node to the other has worked so far. But the switch from between bands (2.4Ghz and 5Ghz) is a new thing to me and does not seem to flip consistently. Sometimes I think my phone is stuck in 2.4Ghz despite being few feet away from the router and having excellent 5Ghz signal. So, I am now playing around with the Smart Connect rules to see if something can be done. I am also thinking that the issues people describe here (lack of speed, disconnections) could come from improper rules for band switching. Is there a guide or help you can point the community for tweaking the smart connect rules based on custom home configurations (i.e., putting new thresholds based on how the signal is distributed in the various rooms and frontyards)?

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    • Smart Connect is not all that smart, Dorian. I’ve had lots of convos with Asus and they couldn’t provide any real instruction on how to configure it. I’ve tried myself many times without being able to come to a concert conclusion. It’s a game of trial and error. I think if you’re really bothered by which band to use, just use them as two separate Wi-Fi networks. My take is that, as long as the speed is fast enough for you need, why bother about the actual number?

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  96. I need to setup a new wireless network in a large house and had a quick question on future proofing. Would it be fair to say this system will work for casual users for the next decade? My other thought is purchasing a budget unit now, like an Eeros, then upgrading in 2-3 years when the technology is more widespread.

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  97. Thanks for the heads up. Installed it just before sleep. It hasn’t fixed my backhaul drops of the node down to the 2.4GHz band, but so far it’s been way more reliably reconnecting to the dedicated backhaul… unfortunately this means it can drop to the 2.4GHz band again sooner too 😉 since I Haven’t actually timed an average time to backhaul loss I can’t say wether it’s actually improved or not… it feels similar over such a short test time… and I still only get about 3/5 of my download speed even when the dedicated backhaul is up… so it will still go back to the store tomorrow. Such a shame 🙁

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  98. thanks Steve, i was looking for the actual file, it doesn’t show on the US Asus website. It does update to that new version 25524 if you use the app or web interface but I prefer to upload the file. Told somewhere along the way that you should never use the auto upgrade?? used it anyway and it worked fine after resetting my cable modem.
    thanks

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  99. go into the administrative settings –> Firmware Update Tab, and at the top of the screen (it may be visible from other screens as well) there is a yellow exclamation point icon. Click that and then the Firmware Update screen will show either a button saying firmware update or a link. I forget which.

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  100. Mark, I can send you the link to the 25513 beta. I can’t seem to find the latest 25524 firmware on any of the Asus sites.

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  101. @Mark, the new firmware is 25524, not 25224. I am still using 25224 myself (either what it shipped with or may one update since) because I haven’t been having the reported issues and have been hesitant to update. You may also be running that older firmware.

    If people report good results after a couple of days with 25524, then I’ll try the upgrade.

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  102. To Dong and All,

    So I’ve been using the ZenWiFi AX system for a bit now. I had reset the system per Dongs suggestion. While I’m not getting the random disconnects now on a couple of devices the system would just go down completely wireless most of the time and sometimes both wired and wifi which is odd. I’ve not used the App at all as suggested by Dong. Also I have not used the App at all for the settings.

    Today while my wife, mother in law and I are working from home and kids watching streaming service the network completely went out for about 20 mins before I finally went up and rebooted the system. I originally updated the firmware when I first hooked up the system at the end of may. After this issue and then coming here I saw some people mentioning about a new frmware version out today v ending 25224 which oddly enough I know have and I guess would explain why the network went down if it took this update which I don’t know how it would have as I didn’t do it and I don’t see any auto update feature. In any case I’m hoping this fixes my issues.

    I do really like this system and if I can get the disconnects to stop it would be great. The speeds I get are great with it and the coverage is amazing in our house.

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  103. 25509 was a dumpster fire, but the beta 25513 has been stable. So hopefully this new one incorporates the best of 25513 and some other goodies. Still don’t understand who posts new firmware with no notes.

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  104. I upgraded to the new firmware, and can confirm that there are no release notes as of yet and the update is not posted on the Asus site, it just came available on the router. Hopefully they will post release notes soon.

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  105. There is new firmware out today (25524) for those of you interested. it may solve some of the issues you are having. Currently no release notes to go along with it so cannot provide much more info than that.

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  106. Hi Dong!
    Thanks for your recommendation.
    I’ve been using this product for a week.
    This mesh solved all wifi problems in my place.

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  107. Hello Dong, I have a 7000 square feet house on one single floor but with metal in walls (house built in the early 50’s). Here is my brand new Setup: Asus AX11000 with latest firmware upgrade (3.0.0.4.386_25509) as Main Router with 4 wireless units of XT8 (with latest firmware upgrade also) as Aimesh nodes. Here is my Q: When installing AX, I created 3 différents WIFI names for each of the 3 bands. Obviously this did not establish a Dedicated wireless backhaul. As per ASUS, I should enable SmartConnect on the AX and the 5GHz-2 will establish the hidden SSID Dedicated wireless backhaul. However since reading all the comments here, I am literally afraid to change anything as I only created those 3 SSID at setup with no other changes.
    1) Should I go ahead and enable SmartConnect ?
    2) Is the Dedicated Backhaul essential since I have about 35 clients at all times including 20 of them as Smart cameras and other devices ?
    Thanks for your help

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    • That’s a huge house, Cyril. You should consider running network cables.

      1. Either way is fine.
      2. Not really unless you want to get the best performance. In most cases, you’re fine having the current setup.

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  108. yep whaleman – when my tech does not work after messing around with it for a while, it goes back to the vendor. Along with Amplifi Alien, also consider Orbi RBK852 and its little brother RBK752. I’ve used Orbi in the past and they are relatively stable but as Dong confirmed in one of the posts, they tend to have a lag in handing off your client from one node to the other . Other options might be Velop. GT-AX11000 is perhaps a decent choice and adding nodes later once the firmware becomes more stable. If you remember, Dong mentioned that GT-AX11000 also had a glitchy firmware which they eventually fixed and made it ready for prime time. As always Dong knows the Best 🙂

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  109. Thanks. Yeah seriously considering returning it again, thankfully I bought it from a very considerate store. Seriously considering waiting for the AmpliFi Alien to be released in Europe, even if it offers less for more money it also seems to offer a lot of peace of mind 🙂 And I can buy one first and get a second as a node later in case it won’t reach our concrete basement on its own. One of the reasons I got the ZenWifi to start with.

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  110. You are missing the big point here – a glitchy router. ASUS return policy is not favorable. 15% restocking with customer paying return shipping. To get to the point that the unit is non functional for a free return, we need tech support which is hard to get a hold of. Then, there is all that wasted time for some of us who are trying to work from home and fixing routers and figuring out network administration is not a full time job for some of us. They do charge premium for these products. So, why not offer products after fully testing them rather than shoving beta prototypes on to the market. I am not writing to seek your opinion on my viewpoint but explaining my stance as to the agony of going through buying these prototypes.

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  111. Ram it down your throat? Did they tie you down and force you to use it? LOL. You can return it if you don’t like it. I’m not an Asus fanboy so I have no stake in this. No one is forcing you to keep the router if you don’t like it.

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  112. Thank you. A quick follow up. Suppose I get the AX11000:
    1. Will it have much better long range connectivity than AX58U?
    2. Will Aimesh be impaired when coupling AX11000 with AX58U since the latter does not have a dedicated backhaul band?

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  113. Dong, thank you for generously replying to people. I spent the an evening and a morning trying to make a decision, and I am still lost, need your help. I am on a relatively small home, planning to move to a larger one in a few months. Got the Asus AX58U last month and rather happy with it so far (although sometimes WiFi signal is lost for a few minutes). In the backyard I don’t get as good WiFi as I wish, so I thought to get another router to AiMesh. Read your other post about combining two AX58U, but I am still confused what is the better way to future proof the decision (looks like the AX58U wasn’t enough). I have no cable connections at home, so need to rely on WiFi backhauls.

    Here is where I am confused. Looks like a pair of XT8 is better than a pair of AX58U, right? What about WPA3, which is one of the reasons I went for AX58U (although I am still stuck on WPA2 as some of my devices can’t connect if I enable WPA3). And what about the 160hz channel in AX58U which from your review the XT8 does not seem to have? And finally, would the XT8 be overall a better router, more long-range and close-range speed, more stable connection, better for Aimesh, than the pair of XT8. The current cost of two AX58U is 180*2=$360, while two XT8 is $450, not a huge difference if the network is more reliable and ready for future devices.

    Any thoughts?

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    • You’re not confused, Dorian. That’s good news. The bad news is yes if you truly want to be “future-proof” you have to two with two Asus GT-AX11000. I’d recommend getting what serves you NOW, you’ll never be truly future-proof considering we have Wi-Fi 6E on the way. As to which to get, check out this post (and the related ones). It will take some time to read them all, but you’ll have a much better idea.

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  114. I want to love the ZenWifi AX8, I really do…. and I almost do too. No other wifi 6 mesh system offers nearly the same capability and configurability as it at the same price point and it looks good enough to have visible in the living room and all.

    I just can’t get it to work properly. For some reason it refuses to keep a stable backhaul on the dedicated 5GHz band and regularly reverts to the 2.4GHz band shared with everything else for a backhaul. It’s not the placement, because this happens even when I put the node in the same room as the main unit, about 20cm apart, and it’s unlikely to be the units, since I’ve already replaced them once, assuming a hardware issue…. it doesn’t even seem to the 5GHz band itself, since if I unlock it for other units, they can keep a stable connection to it. I’ve even disconnected as many electronics in the area around the two units that I can still maintain a working household with, but it still refuses to keep the backhaul stable…. At times it can keep up for almost a full day with a “great” signal detected (if I look at the mobile app, it reports about -60dBm at the most remote spot I’d even consider having it at, which beats the computer just 2m from the main unit with its -70ish dBm), so it doesn’t make any sense why it regularly drops down to the 2.4GHz band and claims a “poor” signal (sill about the same actual strength though). For some reason I also only get about 150MBit/s internet on the node, even when using a computer hooked via ethernet to the node that usually easily gets my full 250MBit from the main unit at the same location.

    I can’t even think of more things to try now. I’ve switched units, I’ve switched sets, I’ve disabled wifi 6 and 160MHz and no matter what I do, the node sooner or later starts taunting me with the yellow light and reports that it’s using the 2.4GHz backhaul in the web interface. I’ve performed more factory resets on them that any hardware I’ve ever owned, and I’ve tried three different firmware versions, I even tried to set up the replacement units using only the web interface after readin some of the comments here. ASUS support couldn’t help me besides trying older firmware and eventually suggesting replacing it… but I find it highly unlikely that two sets from completely different batches have the exact same behaviour due to a faulty unit.

    I’d appreciate any suggestions (besides a wired backhaul, it’s just not possible and I got the units in large part because of the really good wireless backhaul speeds reported because of this… but I don’t even get that by the looks of it). I really want to keep them, but the switch to 2.4GHz is not graceful when it happens, so it interrupts music streaming in the house regularly, and should a gaming machine be connected to the node when it happens, I doubt the outcome would be good. I pushed my financials to get it since I want a unit that could keep me over a whole wifi generation instead of buying an wifi 5 unit now and a 6 in a few years… so I’m quite at a loss now.

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    • Sorry to hear your pain. If you have exhausted all options, perhaps consider returning them and trying to get something else – may be same brand different model or some other brand. Dong has covered it all so read through his articles and see what other options you could potentially consider. Hang in there and this will be behind you soon

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  115. I actually don’t think that the Zenwifi AX can deliver your highest speeds. In my house, at three feet from the router, my max speed has been in the 500s. I could get around 900 with my Orbi. Honestly, I think it’s related to the antenna configuration and the bandwidth on each band. The 5.1 band is supposed to give maximum speed. I understand only getting 250-300 in the back rooms after connecting through a node, but not when I am connected right at the source.

    Dong, what do you mean WPA not being recommended. How do you expect to secure your network from other devices joining? All MAC filtering?

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    • Your previous post wasn’t removed, Steve. It was just not yet approved, which it has been now. To avoid spams and keep the site clean, all first posts and posts with certain content are withheld for approval.

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  116. Hello. Very nice review. I originally purchased a pair of XT8s to replace Orbi’s who’s firmware continuously had problems and reboot times of 10-15m per router/node (had 3). The connection between the router and node (2-pack) kept dropping every day or two. I scheduled reboots which reduced the number. Then I saw minimal coverage on some outdoor cameras which are farthest away from router or node so I Purchased a 2nd 2-pack (last one in MD) and setup a 2nd Node (4th unit is still in box). Coverage expanded. I also went to the Xfinity store and replaced the XB6 Gateway with an XB7 Gateway and upped our data bandwidth to 1Gb. I see 200-500mb coverage throughout the house now and on the back patio, garage and driveway. I would expect better consistently (600-800Mb). I just upgraded to v25509. So far no connection drops on XT router/nodes. I am on wireless backhaul at the moment. My house has Cat 5 (18years old) and when I try wired backhaul, speeds drop to 50-80Mb. Not sure why this is the case other than it goes through a Gb switch between node and router. Also, why don’t we have fronthaul 160Mhz yet? Why does WPA3 hiccup had to revert to WPA2+. The units are nice, but these things need addressed.

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      • Question on: My house has Cat 5 (18years old) and when I try wired backhaul, speeds drop to 50-80Mb. I’ve read the other article. Can’t find direction/instruction regarding the cabling requirements. All I know is when I plug in an ethernet cable on the Node to the 2.5gb port that connects through a gigabit switch which is also connected back to the primary Router, speeds drop to 50-80Mb. When I return to wireless backhaul, speeds go back up to good
        Thoughts?

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  117. Yeah exactly. 3 or 4 month without air would be very tough 😉 And a serious note: Thanks to your in-depth and honest review, I knew exactly what I can expect and what kind of product I would buy. Other than the guest network (not) roaming, I got lightning fast and stable WiFi (1 week and counting). And imho the units are aesthetically pleasing (as far as that is possible for a router). So thank you again for the good work!

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  118. I just got off the phone with the (Dutch) Asus support. Yes, guest network on nodes is enabled in the ZenWifi line, but NO! it is not yet integrated in the Firmware of the Zenwifi AX (3.0.0.4.386_25509 as of today). It is on their roadmap right now, to be released Q2/Q3 2020.

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    • That’s about right, David. Thanks for sharing. I’d not hold my breath, though. Asus told me about this one a while ago. The deal is Guest network will eventually be supported.

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  119. Hi Abu S, I have similar experienced as Jacky. No more node disconnected issue since Friday. I didnt play with the setting though just leave it as default for now. I think its fixed. I do scheduled reboot daily and dont feel any problem as well. All devices reconnected including my security camera and robot vacuum. Love it so far!

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  120. Count me in as another person that is having frequent connection drops for the ethernet wired backhaul node. If anything, it seems to have gotten worse on firmware 3.0.0.4.386_25509. I would not recommend anyone to upgrade to the 25509 version at this time.

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  121. Rocky, I am not having any critical problems and am loving my XT8 pair. It would be nice if the guest network worked and if I didn’t have to worry, based on all the reports, that if I did try changing a setting or upgrading firmware that I’d unleash a whole set of problems. It sounds like the current beta software will stabilize things somewhat, so I’ll probably upgrade to that when it’s released. Maybe then I’ll start experimenting with some settings, but for now I’m happy with what I’ve got.

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  122. Folks – The writing is on the wall – I am not sure why we are not seeing it – so many issues with the ZEN XT8 that people are having – I request Mr. Dong Ngo to reconsider the review and put it as “Not Recommended” – my two cents.
    $450 for two pieces of hardware that’s barely functional, loaded with glitches and connection drops and I know one guy who restarts the router every night scheduled. Asus rammed this “not ready for prime time, prototype of a router and a almost Orbi lookalike” down our throats and expects us to use. And the worst of all – non-existent tech support. This is what I glean through the 375 comments on this XT8 of a disaster. Anyone disagrees?

    Honestly, the routers that work well on Wifi 6 are not affordable by 99% of the population at this time ($699 for Orbi and no 10G port? – Is Apple advising Netgear on Pricing?), the ones that are affordable -the companies use all of us as lab rats or guinea pigs – (whatever you prefer). Perhaps time to wait for few more months or an year?

    Mr. Dong Ngo- Please shine the light for all of us to see the uninterrupted gigabit path. Please consider to take a moment to write a wonderful article on Wifi 6 Recommended vs Not Recommended products. You are the best – you guide us!

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  123. I would be interested as well. I’m in week 6 of spinning my wheels with ASUS support and no one I’m speaking to has made any progress or helpful suggestions.

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  124. Hi. Could someone send me that beta version 25513 or tell me where can I download it from?

    Thank you very much in advance

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  125. Has anyone ran into the issue of a wifi 5 client, in my case an older toshiba laptop that i changed to a newer wifi 5 card, showing as unidentified network/public. The only fix seems to be to restart the zenwifi ax units then it connects normally? I tried everything on the windows 10 machine to fix this without the reboot, but it needs rebooted at least once a day to get around this issue (i have another wifi 6 card and adapter for m2 to pcie coming to test as well)

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  126. Hi Abu S, Yes it is stable now.. i tried the same beta version for last 4 days and the Development team nailed the connection issue.

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  127. Leonard, is the connection still stable? I am having the same issue and tech support has me creating separate SSIDs for each of the bands (that did not help); change WAN to static IP (did not help); and a few other QoS changes and none have helped. If the beta version 25513 is still stable I will ask them for that today.

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  128. I’m having some problems getting even half of my service, which is gigabit / 40Mbps. I’d like to at least see 600 or so when close to the main router. I’ve never been able to see close to my max.

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  129. Many thanks Dong — So I decided to pick up the GT-AX11000 (actually found one) and now I’m using it as the main router, with the two AT8s as nodes. So far so good.

    I have a question though about your comment above: Are you saying that the WAN IP Connection Type (http://10.0.8.1/Advanced_WAN_Content.asp) should be “automatic”? When I set up the AX11000, I put that setting to Static IP and entered in the IP Addresses, DNS, etc that my Gateway uses. Similarly, on my Gateway I assigned the AX11000 a static IP. Appreciate your thoughts.

    Side question: Should I enable WIFI Agile Multiband? It’s disabled by default and just wondering if it’s necessary on these routers. I should add that most of my clients at home are on WIFI 5 (not WIFI 6 compatible).

    Cheers,

    Dan

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    • Sure, Dan. Nice setup!

      1. You should use a static value only when you have static IP from the IPS. In your case, it seems you’re using a double NAT setup, setting the static IP, in this case, doesn’t make any difference. 99% of the time you can just use the Auto setting.
      2. It doesn’t really matter, it has very little effect on anything really. It’s a nifty idea that has little effect in real-life.

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  130. My maximum throughput is close to what ISP is providing me (500/100 Mbs). Even when I am few meters away from the node. Without any walls or obstacles of course.
    I am on firmware 3.0.0.4.386_25509.
    BTW: I had some node disconnection problems recently. It looks I solved them by adjusting channels for each band.

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  131. I was wondering what everyone’s maximum and average throughput speeds have been. We’ve been struggling mightily as of recent so I want to make sure it’s the isp and not the router/mesh that is causing the reduced speed.

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  132. Yeah Leonard, i have received the same beta version 25513 firmware, i have been suffering with this disconnect issue since day 1.. It’s been 2 days using this and i have reset to factory setting and configure from the scratch.. So far no issues.. Day 3 i’m going to configure schedule reboot to see if that gives any negative impact or not.

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  133. I received a beta version 25513 which supposed to help in node disconnected intermittently. I volunteered to test this beta version and so far after more than 24 hours I believe the dev nailed it. I havent seen any disconnect issue of the node as well as all my devices connected without any issue. Finally. I believe this will help many. I’ll continue to let computer with Intel modem runs a few days connected to the node. usually when this notebook connected to the node it will cause probelms within hours. I have a feeling this new beta version firmware fixed it. let me test it for a few more days.

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  134. Dong, thank you for all this great information. I purchased the AX-XT8 two pack and a third standalone XT8 to ensure ample coverage throughout our 5 bedroom home. The entire home is wired with cat5e terminating in a central wiring panel that has my tp-link 16 port switch. I’d like to set up a star topology and run wired backhaul from both nodes back to the main router which is in my home office. So the config would basically be… Modem -> Router -> Switch -> Node 1, Node 2. Is this possible? When I have both nodes connected to the switch, they disappear from the Topology on the Asus admin UI (but I still see them as clients). When I disconnect, say, Node 2 from the switch, they immediately show back up with Node 1 as wired backhaul and Node 2 as wireless backhaul. Is this to be expected? Just hoping to get the best possible performance out of this system. Also I don’t think daisy chaining them together is an option due to our wiring layout.

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    • You don’t need to worry about the topology when you have wired backhaul, Jeff. (More on that here.) What you experienced is strange. Make sure the switch is an unmanaged one. Also, make sure you set up the AiMesh properly. Since you have 3 units, just set them up the way you do any AiMesh router.

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  135. The 3.0.0.4.386.25509 was made available in the US this morning as well. Haven’t had a chance to test it out yet. Please post any results!

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  136. Received a firmware update today in Malaysia
    Version 3.0.0.4.386.25509
    2020/06/0472.27 MBytes
    ASUS ZenWiFi XT8 Firmware version 3.0.0.4.386.25509
    – Improved connection stability.
    – Fixed node 2.5G port connection issues.
    – Adaptive QoS supported more apps
    Work-From-Home: WeChat Work®, RescueAssist, Tencent/VooV Meeting® Learn-From-Home: LinkedIn Learning®, Binkist®, Skillshare®, edX®
    Media Streaming: SiriusXM®, Bilibili®
    Indoor training: The Sufferfest®, Bkool Fitness®, TrainerRoad®, Rouvy®

    Please unzip the firmware file first then check the MD5 code.
    MD5: 6cb90af0ea97cfaa9461f0ae8961042f

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  137. I’m not very techie so I apologize in advance if my lingo is off:

    I’ve also had some connection issues with my XT8s (one router one node). Everything is working great and then suddenly none of my clients are able to connect to the WIFI. The only fix is to reboot the routers. This would happen at least once every day or two. Note that I also set the system to reboot by itself at 3am but I’d still have this issue at least once a day or two days.

    After reading some of the comments below, I did the following and so far I haven’t had any issues (four days now — fingers crossed):

    1. Factory reset
    2. Set up via Web interface (first time I tried this. Before I used the phone app)
    3. Kept all default settings — except I changed the local LAN IP and I still use the 5ghz-2 for some clients.

    I also looked at my Gateway (I have the XT8 router plugged into my Gateway). My Gateway’s WIFI is disabled but has its own local IP network, with only two clients connected to it: A TV box and my XT8 router (my XT8 network uses a slightly different LAN IP address to avoid conflicts). Anyway, I noticed the XT8 was assigned a DHCP address, so I switched it to a Static address.

    So far so good (hope I haven’t jinxed it).

    Would be curious if this works for other people too.

    Cheers,

    Dan

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    • Thanks for sharing, Dan. And your lingo is perfect. Looks like you have a double NAT, check out this post for more. Make sure you change the WAN IP setting of the router to dynamic before you make any further changes relating to the ISP-provided gateway, though.

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  138. Hi Dong,

    Thank you so much for this review. Amazing site and plethora of great information. Much appreciated sir.
    I have recently moved to a new house (3000 sqft) from a small apartment. I have a RT-AX88U as the main router. I need to expand my wifi signal to far corners of the house. The whole house is wired with Cat6 cable. I’ve connected router to a 16 port switch so the rest of the house can get wired internet. I was thinking of going with two of AX-92U as wired backhaul nodes as these are $100 cheaper than two pairs of ZenWifi Ax-XT8s. I will pay extral $100 for improved and stable wifi signal.

    What are you thoughts on this as on June 2020? I apologize if you already have answered this question. I read through the comment section but didn’t see anything specific to my question.

    Thank you again for your excellent work.

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  139. Thank you, that related post and some of your other posts helped very much, I appreciate it. Let me ask in a different way, taking specific model numbers out of the discussion: Do you think the faster wireless speed and other efficiency gains of AX provide a suitable replacement for gigabit wired connections, or would it still be worthwhile to hardwire clients when possible? I’ve read that Wifi 6 handles latency much better, but is it on par with a traditional hardwired connection? Lastly, do you think link aggregation and 2.5Gbps ports will have real value anytime soon, or will we see new standards come up before that happens?

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    • There’s no wireless connection that can beat a wired connection, Mikey. That’s because a wired connection is stable and reliable, while a wireless one is always fluctuating — more on this here. Eventually, 10Gbps wired network will be the new norm. I’d give it a few years or maybe a decade. That’s mostly because 1Gbps is faster than most of us would need, for now.

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  140. Stefano – Do you have a modem separate from router? I mean like comcast or verizon modem (or modem router combo) and this zenxt8? If so, try doing this – “forget wifi” on all devices, reset xt8 to factory and dont connect to modem. Power cycle modem first, connect a laptop to that and see if your internet is stable for 10, 15 or 20 mins. If so, connect the router now and try giving a different local IP (google search “private ip range”) and you get a few options – go with one that is not common like 172 etc. Dont connect all wifi devices at once. Start with one at a time every few hours – notice stability and continue to add more. I had the exact same issue – In my case its not zen router but something else – but the culprit was comcast tv box with internet was connected to Modem directly (not through router) had the same IP address as the router and there was a conflict. Result was a nightmare few days trying to figure it out. Also, if you have any landline boxes like Vonage, OOma etc, see if their IP has any conflict with your router. Also, consider trying wireless backhaul for a few days and once you notice its stable, then convert to wired BH. All the best and hang in there. You will be able to pinpoint the issue. My two cents.

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  141. Hi Stefano. I just wanted to share that I’m having the exact issues as you describe. I’ve been working (unsuccessfully) with ASUS for a month to try to resolve it and have made no progress. I changed the default subnet as well, so I’m wondering if there is some sort of firmware bug that is messing things up? That’s a total guess, but we’ve put in an order for an Orbi from Costco (our local warehouse has one of the AX models now). Please post any solutions you find – I’ll do the same. Good luck!

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  142. Hi Dong,
    Did exactly what you advised… still problems all over. I’m clueless what to do.

    The main problem is that devices are constantly disconnecting, sometimes refusing to reconnect. These devices are a mix of Windows laptops, Chromebooks, iPhones, Android phones, Google Nest Hub’s… it’s basically everything in my house which is unstable. Very very frustrating after spending a lot of money on a fancy Zenwifi mesh system coming from a rock solid RT-AC68U (router) + RT-AC56U (access point) setup.

    I now have latest firmware, clean setup after factory reset, wired backhaul, everything default but the subnet changed from 192.168.50.x to 192.168.1.x.

    Can you advise on options I could try?

    I’m thinking of taking the (huge) loss on selling the Zenwifi and going back to the old situation or try something else… Orbi? Other Asus non-zenwifi router? I’m very reluctant to what could be a more stable setup.

    Speed is all fine, I don’t care if speed is not best-in-class. I need stability and signal strength.

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    • Not sure what to tell you Stefano. It’s super-odd considering you have wired backhaul. I’ve used the GT-AX11000 with a mix of a couple of routers, including one XT8 and one CT8 for months now with no issue at all. (At one point, I even tried the XT8 as the main router).

      By the way, since the default IP changed, it seemed you might have had another router *before* the first XT8, if so, that could be part of the issue. Make sure your XT8 connects to the Internet directly (via a modem). If not, check out this post on double NAT vs single NAT.

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  143. Dong,
    I am considering getting a single XT8, but wondering if I should hold out for the upcoming AX86U or instead go for a pair of AX3000 mesh based on my setup, would appreciate your insight. My network is a little weird, so bear with me:

    I have a just under 2000 square foot house, two stories. The primary router is an older Linksys AC 3×3 running DD-WRT and is centrally located on the first floor where we spend the most time. I get a full signal throughout most of the first and second floors except for the master bedroom where it drops off considerably, like 25% signal strength (likely due to obstructions from walls, stairs, and bedroom furniture) and the family room below the master where I get probably 75% signal (again due to walls). It’s worth noting that I do however have the ability to run Ethernet cable and an AP to the master bedroom, but have not yet done so and not sure I would need to if I had better equipment. In one spare bedroom directly above the primary router I have another Linksys AC 3×3 DD-WRT in wireless bridge mode serving as the “wired” connection to my home office equipment and gaming PC in that room, so essentially the backhaul between the two routers is a 1.3Gbps wireless connection, as I don’t have an easy way to run Ethernet cable to this room, but very stable.

    Finally, my internet connection speed is currently 100Mbps, however our neighborhood is getting fiber in the coming months, so my connection speed will be jumping up to at least 500Mbps, with the option to go 750 or gigabit or even two-gigabit, depending on what I want to pay for.

    Option 1: I am considering going with a single XT8 because I could use the 4×4 band on the XT8 as a backhaul band. I can continue to use the office wireless bridge router and then use the old primary router in bridge mode on the family room entertainment center as a “wired” connection without having to run any cables or lose any bandwidth, and the two bridges would not interfere with any other wireless clients on the other 5Ghz band. My hope is that the XT8 has enough power to punch through obstructions and serve the master bedroom with no issue. This option allows me to use all my existing equipment and not have to buy/run Ethernet cable.

    Option 2: Do the same as above, but get the AX86U instead when it comes out (any idea when this might be or when you’ll review it?). The added benefit there is perhaps more future-proofing, as this one has LAN link aggregation (I could go full two-gigabit end to end from my ISP! I won’t, but I could.) and some other bells and whistles (are gaming features worth it?). The drawback here is combining the bridged connections into the fronthaul band (perhaps negligible performance hit?). By the way, I know it doesn’t have it today, but is the XT8 capable of getting link aggregation with a firmware update?.

    Option 3: I could get a pair of AX3000/AX58U, or combine one of the above options with one of these, and form a mesh. I would put the primary centrally located on the first floor and the secondary in the master bedroom, hardwired backhaul, and still potentially have the old AC bridges in place. My concern with this option is having the router and node end up being too close together, causing the clients to hop back and forth. Moving the nodes further apart would involve putting one in the basement or another location on the first floor, which could create other issues and additional wiring. These are also 2×2, so I’d lose some bandwidth on the wireless bridge backhaul connections (perhaps negligible?).

    What are your thoughts? Single XT8? Wait for AX86U? Some form of mesh? Am I overthinking this?

    Thanks!

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    • I have no comment, Mikey, since the RT-AX86U is not out and I have no experience with it. In the meantime, read this post on AiMesh (and related ones) and reviews and I think you can come to your own conclusion.

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  144. @Dong Ngo

    Hello,
    I have one small question.. I order ASUS ZenWiFi AX (XT8) Wireless router (90IG0590-MO3G70) that one is cheaper than 90IG0590-MO3G40) but now I see one strange thing:

    ASUS ZenWiFi AX (XT8) Wireless router (90IG0590-MO3G70) – has Tri-band (2.4 GHz / 5 GHz / 60 GHz)
    ASUS ZenWiFi AX (XT8) Wireless router (90IG0590-MO3G40) – has Tri-band (2.4 GHz / 5 GHz / 5 GHz)

    The 90IG0590-MO3G70 says on the site that have 60 GHz is that a problem when I place one router ground floor and the second one somewhere on the 3th floor with out a cable?

    And what does the 60 GHz ?

    Regards,
    Michel

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  145. Thank you, Dong. Very insightful, and it now makes sense!
    I don’t have the chance to physically connect the routers without being through the gateway. It seems like the ZenWiFi would be a good alternative, but I believe that having a wired RT-AX88U connecting by Wi-Fi to the RT-AX3000 would also be a viable option. The house is big, but I believe this could work.

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  146. Thank you for the reply and for the link, Dong! If I understand your reply correctly, having a wired RT-AX88U being the router, and a wired RT-AX3000 being a satellite, both operating on the same mesh network, is fine? I don’t have the capability to link those two physically together with an ethernet cable, without both being directly connected through the ISP gateway. Is this acceptable?
    The article you linked to says “On the other hand, all dual-band Wi-Fi broadcasters’ 5 GHz band uses the same set of channels. As a result, putting two together is like putting one freeway right on top of another.” + “So having multiple Wi-Fi broadcasters clumped up at a spot is something we want to avoid”. Does this mean that I shouldn’t have the set up with the Asus’ systems done? They’ll be half house apart, so they wouldn’t be clumped.
    I’m sorry for the additional questions, but I want to make sure that I make a sound investment what works without any hiccups. Thank you again for your insights!

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    • No, you need to link the RT-AX3000 to the RT-AX88U. Like this: Internet source (i.e. ISP gateway or router) -> (WAN) RT-AX88U (LAN preferably, or via Wi-Fi)-> RT-AX3000. Having them both linked to the IPS gateway will NOT make a system. More on that here. And no, when they are put far apart then that’s not clumped.

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  147. Thanks Dong. But XT8 does not have 160 mhz support and 92u does; 92U has a faster 2.4 ghz (theoretical) speed so in that sense – 92U should be superior to xt8 is what I am guessing. BH Photo is the only one that carries dual zen pack at $450 and 92U is retailing at $380 on amazon. So 92U is $70 cheaper.

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  148. Hey Dong — You answered some questions under another review but thought I’d ask here since it really has to do with the XT8s.

    Long story short, I have an XT8 router and node. I cannot connect the two with wires because I can’t get wiring to that node’s location at the moment. SO far the network works well, with my power clients (and most used clients) using 5ghz-2 and the more passive (smarthome clients) using 5ghz-1 or 2ghz.

    I feel like I need a third node in the basement. That node could be wired to the router because I happen to have ethernet outlets there.

    So: What Asus router would be a good option to use as the main router (plugged into the modem), which would then feed the two XT8s as nodes (one wired backhaul and one wireless backhaul). I’ve looked at the GT-AX11000 (which you suggested previously), but it’s unavailable everywhere (I’m in Canada). Any other options?

    Much appreciated!

    Dan

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    • The GT is a great choice for that, Dan, but any AiMesh router will work. You want a tri-band router, there though, so, maybe the RT-AX92U. You can also use it a as node, too, and keep the XT8 as the main router. Or get another XT8 unit.

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  149. Hi Dong,
    Thanks after reading the post, you stated “…..Lastly, QoS is generally not necessary when you have a high-speed broadband connection that has enough bandwidth for all of your applications at once. But even then, if you know that nobody in your home regularly downloads stuff, like using a BitTorrent client, then it’s still a good idea to turn it on….”

    So the speed is 300mbs. No BitTorent client, just streaming x3 movies, work/school from home as of now and getting into games. Based on that I should consider setting up the QoS, correct?

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  150. Hi Dong,
    I decided on the AX88U. Using it for a few days now. Please with it and working great. Easy setup even for me. I have a few technical questions and as state previous I am not that technical and now looking at all the capabilities not sure what to enable to keep it simple and also use some of its capabilities. So, should I –
    Enable the smart connect between the 2.4 and 5gzh, which I set up separately?
    Enable the firewall which is set as NO now? The DOS is enabled. Should I just leave it this way?
    Should the QoS be enabled? Should I just leave it this way?

    Gaming will come later.
    Thanks,
    Carl

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  151. Hi Dong! I only discovered your page 2 days ago, and boy, have I been missing out! I’ve read some 20+ of your reviews in just two days!

    I live on a single floor flat with some 250 m2 (2700 sqft), and a rectangular shape. For the sake of it, let’s say that my ISP router is on the lower left corner of the rectangle, and that I have a repeater in the exact centre of the rectangle (run of the mill TP-LINK). I have our home office on the upper right corner, and the computer sitting there is served by a wired connection (Wi-Fi barely gets there). My ISP speed is 500/100 wired (MEO Portugal), and the fibre cable enters directly into my flat and into the ISP gateway.
    We’re talking about 10 Wi-Fi devices (not simultaneously), 10 wired devices (not simultaneously), 4K Netflix (wired TV), and internet usage going on frequently.
    I’ll be receiving a new DELL XPS 13 9300 with Wi-Fi 6 capabilities, and I want to upgrade and future proof the whole house, e.g. replace actual Cat 5e cabling by Cat 6a.

    I also want to turn my ISP gateway into a modem only (poor performance Wi-Fi). I plan to do this by buying a new router capable of Wi-Fi 6, creating a bridge mode, and disabling Wi-Fi connections on the ISP gateway.
    I’ve been looking – as per your reviews – to the TP-LINK Archer AX6000 (wife would most likely hate its design), the Asus ZenWiFi AX (XT8), and the Asus AX6000 (RT-AX88U).

    I was looking at putting together the Archer AX6000 and a TP-LINK AX1500 (RE505X) to serve as a repeater where the actual one sits, and have a mesh system. The issue is that this repeater doesn’t support Wi-Fi 6 on 2.4 GHz.

    I loved your ZenWiFi AX review, but the fact that it doesn’t yet provide 160 MHz bandwidth on the 2.4 GHz and the main 5 GHz channels, is a no-go for me, but you explain that Asus told you they’d be providing firmware update to make this possible?

    I then saw your Asus RT-AX3000 and RT-AX58U review, and would like to know if having an RT-AX88U serving as the main router (wired and broadcasting Wi-Fi), and having either the Asus RT-AX3000 or RT-AX58U on a wired connection in my office, would be a good a good setup. I’d want the RT-AX3000 or RT-AX58U wired, and providing Wi-Fi to that side of the house, while creating a seamless mesh network. Can a setup like this coexist? From your article it seems that one can select which is the router and which is the satellite, right? They’d both be wired.

    Looking at these three setups, which one would you go for? Thanks!

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  152. Thank you Dong for the response. I was also reading your reviews and user comments from you for ax92U, XT8, and AX11000 routers. Going with your advice of matching triband with triband -Not sure which one is the better Combo –
    1. AX11000 with two ax92U nodes (downside is there is no 2.4 ghz WiFi 6 on the nodes & WiFi 6 on 5 ghz-2 is the only WiFi 6 spectrum available and unless we go with wired backhaul, the wireless backhaul on the nodes appears to use same 5ghz-2 wifi 6 band- crazy)- costs $450 + $400
    2. AX11000 with two XT8 nodes (downside is the 2.4 ghz for Wifi6 is capped at 574 mbps -sluggish for $450) – $450 + $450
    3. or to just get RBK852 – $625 if we use netgear 10% coupon for first time users

    My Scenario: 4000 sft home with three floors; entire home networked to cat 6a so possible to go wired or wireless; a lot of laptops (2 out of 3 on wifi 6) and phones (all wifi 6) will have a combination of wifi 6 and wifi 5; Streaming devices, printers, TV and NAS all have wired network interface. Not much of gaming happening here.

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    • The first two are basically the same, Rocky. Don’t get too hungry up on the WiFi speeds, chance are you’ll get even slower than that. You shouldn’t expect concrete speed numbers from Wi-Fi the way you do wired connections.

      If you just care about coverage and speeds, any of them will work fine, and similaly. An Asus will give you more features.

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  153. @Dong Ngo
    Do you know the differents between :

    These are the black ones:
    ASUS ZenWiFi AX (XT8) Wireless router (90IG0590-MO3G50) – cheeper price
    ASUS ZenWiFi AX (XT8) Wireless router (90IG0590-MO3G20) – higher price

    These are the white ones:
    ASUS ZenWiFi AX (XT8) Wireless router (90IG0590-MO3G70) – cheeper price
    ASUS ZenWiFi AX (XT8) Wireless router (90IG0590-MO3G40) – higher price
    ASUS ZenWiFi AX (XT8) Wireless router (90IG0590-MO3G80) – higher price

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  154. Just wanted to let everyone know that Amazon now has a 1 pack of the ZenWiFi ax available for $249 for those who need to buy a 3rd node. Unlike some on here, I have had no trouble with mine. I am getting my full 300 Mbps speed everywhere in my house despite old plaster walls. I am using wireless backhaul and have had no disconnect issues. This system has been great for me. Been using it about 6 weeks now. I just ordered a 3rd node to try and cover my outdoor patio. I hope this doesn’t cause problems or cause the system to become unstable. The two piece has been rock solid.

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  155. Hi Dong, Read your reviews on ASUS line of routers specifically Zen, GT-AX11000 etc. In your comment above, you say that “Using the GT-AX11000 as the main router and the RT-AX92U as node(s) is a great setup, Sandeep. Much better than the XT8.” – why do you say that ? Because just like Sandeep, I am also at a point deciding on Zen setup vs the one mentioned above i.e. GT-AX11000 + RT-AX92U. Is it because the latter has the faster AX 2.5 data rate of 1148 mpbs as opposed to Zen XT8’s 574 mbps and a slightly faster processor? I have the option to have a wired backhaul or wireless since my entire home is networked to Cat6a..

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  156. I had the same issue and setup from scratch again several times with the latest firmware but the problem never resolved. If I keep the Router and Mesh Node just 3-meter distance and this is not happening but once I move the Mesh Node to upstairs then “Flashing Blue” on Mesh Node starts again. Not sure if hardware issue or firmware issue till date.

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  157. Thanks Dong! I’m finally getting a the ASUS ZenWifi AX system but wonder, can I extend the system by adding on my old Mac AirPort Extreme (last generation) or Mac Airport express?

    A. Will the system work with the addition?
    B. If it works (technically), how badly would it slow things down?

    Basically, my question is: in my WAY too big house with dead spots everywhere, should I add my old routers on, or get an extra pair of the ZenWi-Fi hubs?

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    • That depends on how you add it to the system and what your expectations are. However, even if that works, chances are your network will be fragmented. Apple stuff is very thin on customization. I’d go with an extra ZenWiFi set.

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  158. Nice review. I am in dilemma, I have 2 options:

    A: Asus RT-AX88U AX6000 + ASUS RT-AX3000 in AiMesh (if signal from one router will not be enough)
    B: ZenWiFi AX XT8 take it straight away.

    The price will be roughly the same. What do think guys?

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    • I’d hesitantly recommend the ZenWiFi XT8. It’s been great for me personally but some folks have had issues with it as you can see in the comments below. If you have wired backhaul, the A option is the way to go.

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  159. I keep having wifi connection issues with devices on my Zenwifi AX XT8 based mesh system. Zenwifi AX main router (1st floor) + 1 Zenwifi AX node (2nd floor), RT-AC68U as extra node on the attic (3rd floor). RT-AC68U has been boosted however, so the RT has very strong signal, sometimes the RT has stronger signal on 1st floor (from the attic!) than the ZenWifi’s at 1st and 2nd floor.

    Signal strength is not an issue, signal is good, it’s just seems that some devices are not handshaking properly or something.

    First it were some older Windows machines which could not connect at all, after updating wifi drivers they were able to connect, but sometimes connection is dropped. Google Nest hubs often lose the connection and don’t automatically reconnect. Then there’s an iPhone 11 which has frequent connection drops. And a Samsung Galaxy A5 which is more often disconnected than connected.

    In short: I’m getting fed up with it.

    So far I’ve tried:
    * disabling QOS – can’t say this helps
    * locking wifi channels – can’t say this helps
    * router reboots every other day – can’t say this helps
    * 802.11ax / Wi-Fi 6 modus : disabled – this seems to be the magic setting… but hey, I didn’t get a wifi6 system to be able to disable Wifi6 🙁

    Any ideas, tips? I’m in Europe so no Amplifi Alien offered here, but grass on the Orbi side is starting to look very green 🙁

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    • Try this, Stefano:

      Do not use the mobile app. Use the web interface only.

      1. Upgrade everything to the latest firmware.
      2. Reset the whole system (you can remove one node at a time, that will reset them, then reset the router.)
      3. Set them up again.
      4. Keep the default settings (only change your Wi-Fi name’s name and password to your liking).

      That should make sure there is not a weird setting somewhere that causes the issue.

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  160. Hi Dong, Thanks for the great work.

    I am currently using the Asus RT-AC5300 and Asus RT-AC68U in an AiMesh setup (1Gbps broadband). Wifi performance is ok but not great. Currently, the signal on the 3rd level of my home is very weak and I will like to improve it. Btw, I live in Asia and the homes here use lots of concrete and not wood.

    Option 1: Buy another AC68U to add to the existing AiMesh.
    Option 2: Buy the Asus XT-8

    Which do you think will be a better option from a coverage (and performance) perspective?

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    • If your walls are concrete (and they are where you are as far as I know), Tony, the best you should do is to run a network cable. If that’s not possible, you need to use tri-band routers and place the node near the main router. How near, that depends, more on that here. So the XT8 is a better choice for sure. You can keep the AC5300 as your main router.

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  161. Hi Dong, the direct connection worked fine to set up the AC5300 as a 2nd node but when I set it up it decreased my wifi download speed by over 100 Mbps in almost all parts of the house reached by the reached by the Zen units. When I unplugged it that speed was restored.Why would that be?

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    • The RT-AC53000 is a Wi-Fi 5 router, Carmine. So when you used it, that might have caused the ZenWiFi AX to work in a compatible mode which is slower.

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  162. My 2nd wired node won’t stop flashing green. Any ideas? And I deal with consistent drops. All day. Everyday. Beyond annoying and my hard wired Apple TV’s drop connection completely. I can’t come up with a solution. I’ve rebooted. Any suggestions? My provider said they will check my lines, but I didn’t have these drops with my LUMA wifi mesh system. But the speeds sucked so I upgraded. I’m getting amazing speeds when they are working. But they won’t stay working 🙁 Main unit hardwired from cable modem. From there I’m running Ethernet to first floor node (like I was with LUMA), but continuously flashing green lights and in and out dropped internet all day long. Please help.

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    • A couple of things you should try, Steve:

      1. Reset the system (both units)
      2. Set it up again (you just need to do the router) using the web interface. Do not use the mobile app at all.
      3. Do no use QoS. Other than customizing your Wi-Fi network’s name and password. Leave everything else at default. Basically make as few changes as possible.
      4. Schedule a restart a couple of times a week. (It’s in the Administration -> System area).

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  163. Hi Dong,
    I’ve read lots of reviews and finally got the AX. I haven’t had any of the disconnection issues that others have had and coverage is great, though it may be resulting from initial set up by phone, then changing settings using the web interface on my desktop.

    I live in a 3 bedroom condo where the rooms are next to each other in a line. I’ve set it up where I have the main router in the living room on one side, and the satellite in the middle room, about 4-5m away. I have gigabit internet.

    My main computer is connected via wire to the satellite, and I’m only able to get about 300-400mbps on speedtest and fast.com. Meanwhile I’m about to get around 400mbps max with my iphone X and oneplus 6 right next to the main router. Weirdly, the upload speed is 600-800mbps both with the desktop connected by wire to satellite, and on my phones…

    I’ve read many people able to get 700-800mbps with their phones next to the router and so expect my devices to be able to do the same. I’ve tried messing around with the settings, almost tried all of the channels, but unable to get my devices any faster. Thinking it might be the internet provider, I also tried connecting a computer directly via wire and I’m able to get 900-1000gb as expected.

    Not sure whether there’s something wrong with the routers, or just some of the settings aren’t quite right. Any advice would be great! Thanks in advance.

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  164. Hello Dong,
    The Zen WiFi XT8 is not available anywhere, I I need the Mesh but am no gamer, could i just get the Asus GT-AX11000 and Asus RT-AX92U AX6100 ( 1 or 2 pack ) and have a mesh setup?
    Both are Tri-band ( I will have a wireless backhaul ) .
    Are they comparable? Do I lose anything? Or would you rather advice to wait for the Zen ( 1-2 weeks not much )

    Also thanks a lot for your quick answers, you are really helpful. Do you have links from where if I buy you get some benefits?

    Regards
    Sandeep

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