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TP-Link Deco BE95 BE33000 Mesh Review (vs Deco BE85): More yet Less, For Now

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The TP-Link Deco BE95 BE33000 Quad-Band Whole Home Mesh Wi-Fi 7 System was announced last November and released in May 2023, together with the Deco BE85. I decided not to test it until now because, well, it was complicated.

And it's still complicated today. I'll be the first to admit that I still can't put my finger on how it really works considering the current state of Wi-Fi 7 -- the standard is not yet fully certified, and part of it remains a mystery.

I wouldn't blame you if you thought this review was rushed, even though I took my sweet time with the hardware. Among other things, I needed to justify a purchase of over $1300 (taxes included).

Keep that fact in mind as you continue.

At $1200 for a 2-pack, the new mesh is the most expensive Deco to date for the simple reason that it's the first Quad-band among the family. But as a TP-Link, it likely will not be the most expensive mesh system for long.

Here's the bottom line: If you live in a large home, the Deco BE95 is an easy solution that provides a reliable way to blanket it with strong Wi-Fi signals. But compared to the Deco BE85, this Quad-band hardware makes less sense considering it costs $100 more per hardware unit.

Either of the two will give you a similar experience -- the BE95's hardware differences provide little, if any, improvement. Still, they are the focus of this review. It's recommended that you read my take on the BE85 first.

Done? Let's dig in!

TP Link Deco BE95 Laying
The TP-Link Deco BE95 comes in a 2-pack of two identical mesh routers, each with four Multi-Gig ports.

TP-Link Deco BE95: The double 6GHz bandwidth that turns out to be half

The Deco BE95 is the Deco BE85 plus an additional 6 GHz band. It's the first Quad-band broadcaster with two 6 GHz bands. Supposedly, that doubles the 6GHz real-world bandwidth.

There are other Quad-band Wi-Fi solutions that include 2.4GHz, two 5GHz, and 6GHz bands, such as the Netgear Orbi RBKE960 series, Asus GT-AXE1600, or TP-Link's own Archer AXE300 and not-so-novelty Archer BE900.

Specifically, instead of having a single 6GHz band that encompasses the entire frequency -- as is the case with any Tri-band Wi-Fi 7 broadcaster, such as TP-Link's Deco BE85 and Archer BE800, or the Netgear RS700 -- the BE95 splits its 6GHz spectrum in two.

The result? It is capable of utilizing two channels on the frequency simultaneously. That's the general concept of band-splitting.

However, the Deco BE95, for now, is an intriguing case. To understand it, we need to start with how it is different from its cousin, the Deco Wi-Fi 7, as shown in the table below.

Deco BE95 vs Deco BE85: Hardware specifications

TP Link Deco BE95 vs Deco BE85 FrontTP Link Deco BE95 vs Deco B85 Ports
TP-Link Deco BE95 vs Deco BE85 (BE33000 vs BE22000): The two are identical from most angles until you look at their back. The BE85 mesh router (left) comes with the same number of Multi-Gig ports that are the mirror image of the BE95.
Deco BE95 2pack Deco BE85 3pack
Full NameTP-Link Deco BE95 BE33000 Quand-band Whole Home Mesh Wi-Fi 7 SystemTP-Link Deco BE85 BE22000 Tri-band Whole Home Mesh Wi-Fi 7 System
ModelDeco BE95Deco BE85
Mesh Availability
(at launch)
2-pack
(identical routers)
3-pack or 2-pack
(identical routers)
Dimensions
(each unit)
5.04 Γ— 5.04 Γ— 9.29 in
(128 Γ— 128 Γ— 236 mm)
5.04 Γ— 5.04 Γ— 9.29 in
(128 Γ— 128 Γ— 236 mm)
Processing PowerUndisclosedUndisclosed
Wi-Fi Bandwidth Quad-band BE3300Tri-Band BE22000
1st Band (2.4GHz)
(channel width)
4x4 BE: Up to 1376 Mbps
(20/40MHz)
4x4 BE: Up to 1376 Mbps
(20/40MHz)
2nd Band (5GHz)
(channel width)
4x4 BE: Up to 8640 Mbps
(20/40MHz/160/240MHz)
4x4 BE: Up to 8640 Mbps
(20/40MHz/160/240MHz)
3rd Band (6GHz)
(channel width)
4x4 BE: Up to 11520 Mbps
(20/40MHz/160/320MHz)
4x4 BE: Up to 11520 Mbps
(20/40MHz/160/320MHz)
4rth Band (6GHz)6GHz-2
4x4 BE: Up to 11520 Mbps
(20/40MHz/160/320MHz)
None
Backward compatibility
(with all existing clients)
YesYes
Wireless SecurityWPA2, WPA3WPA2, WPA3
Mobile AppTP-Link DecoTP-Link Deco
Web User InterfaceLimitedLimited
Bridge ModeNoNo
AP Mode
(as a mesh or a single unit)
YesYes
USB Port
(each unit)
1x USB 3.01x USB 3.0
Internal FanYesYes
Gigabit Port
(WAN/LAN auto-sensing)
NoneNone
Multi-Gig Port
(each unit)
2x 2.5Gbps
1x 10Gbps
1x 10Gbps / SFP+ Combo
(all ports are WAN/LAN auto-sensing)
2x 2.5Gbps
1x 10Gbps
1x 10Gbps / SFP+ Combo
(all ports are WAN/LAN auto-sensing)
Link AggregationNoNo
Firmware Version
(at review)
1.0.7 Build 20230510 Rel. 64091.0.7 Build 20230428 Rel. 62173
Power Input110-240V110-240V
Power Consumption
(per 24 hours)
β‰ˆ 535 Wh
(measured at router unit)
β‰ˆ 485 Wh
(measured at router unit)
Suggested Price$1199.99 (2-pack)
$599.99 (single router)
$1499.99 (3-pack)
$999.99 (2-pack
Hardware specifications: TP-Link Deco BE95 vs Deco BE85
Note how the former uses more power than its birthday twin cousin.

As you might have noted, the 6GHz-2 band is the only difference the BE95 has compared to the BE85. Appearance-wise, the two look identical from almost all angles, except:

  • On the back, their ports' labels are mirror images of each other.
  • They have their respective model names and unique default information on the underside.

And there's not much else. You can even use their power adapters interchangeably.

TP Link Deco BE85 UndersideTP Link Deco BE95 Underside
TP-Link Deco BE95 vs Deco BE85 (left): The second place you can tell the two apart is their undersides, where you can find the model numbers and other default/unique info.

The splitting of the 6GHz band and Wi-Fi 7

The practice of splitting a frequency into two narrow bands started with the 5GHz of Wi-Fi 5 and continued to Wi-Fi 6. Instead of having one band encompassing the entire spectrum, we have two, each having half of it.

Dual-band vs Tri-band vs Quad band: That burning bandwidth question

The post linked above talks in great detail about band-splitting in Wi-Fi 6 (and 5) broadcasters, or you can open the cabinet below for quick highlights.

The specificities of band splitting in Wi-Fi broadcasters

Channels allocation, the 5GHz’s DFS, and band-splitting

A Dual-band Wi-Fi 6 (or Wi-Fi 5) broadcaster (2.4GHz + 5GHz) has two distinctive sets of channels. One belongs to the 2.4GHz band, and the other to the 5GHz band.

By default, each channel is set at the lowest width, which is 20MHz. When applicable, the hardware can combine adjacent channels into larger ones that are 40MHz, 80MHz, or even wider.

Depending on your locale and hardware, the number of available channels on each band will vary, depending on how wide the band is.

In the US, the 2.4 GHz band includes 11 usable 20MHz channels (from 1 to 11) and has been that way since the birth of Wi-Fi. Things are simple in this band.

The 2.4GHz band uses channels of 20MHz or 40MHz width. The wider the width, the fewer channels you can get out of the frequency -- the entire band is only so wide.

On the 5GHz frequency, things are complex -- we have DFS and regular (non-DFS) channels. (On top of that, the last 5.9GHz portion of the band was reserved for other applications until late 2022 -- more in this post on UNII-4.)

The 5GHz band uses channels of 20MHz, 40MHz, 80MHz, or 160MHz width. Wider channels are desirable since they deliver more bandwidth -- faster speeds. And the problematic nature of DFS channels is the main reason behind Wi-Fi 6E.

The 5GHz Wi-Fi channels and their positions on the spectrum.
Here are the 5GHz Wi-Fi channels and their positions on the spectrum in the US. The gap in the middle of the DFS portion, between channels 64 and 100, is reserved exclusively for Doppler RADAR, and the portion beyond 5.8GHz is generally unavailable -- it belongs to UNII-4.

Here is the breakdown of the channels on the 5GHz frequency band at their narrowest form (20MHz):

  1. The lower part of the spectrum includes channels: 36, 40, 44, and 48.
  2. The upper part includes channels: 149, 153, 161, and 165.
  3. In between the two, we have the following DFS channels: 52, 56, 60, 64, 100, 104, 108, 112, 116, 120, 124, 128, 132, 136, 140, and 144. (Channels from 68 to 96 are generally reserved exclusively for Doppler RADAR.)

In a dual-band (2.4GHz + 5GHz) broadcaster, the 5GHz band gets all the channels above (#1, #2). It'll also get #3 if the broadcaster supports DFS.

In a traditional Tri-band broadcaster (2.4GHz + 5GHz + 5GHz), the first 5GHz band (5GHz-1) will get the lower channels (#1), and the 2nd 5GHz band (5GHz-2) gets the upper channels (#2).

If the broadcaster support DFS then the 5GHz-1 gets up to channel 64, and the rest (100 and up) goes to 5GHz-2. If the hardware also supports the new 5.9GHz portion of the 5GHz spectrum, it generally has three additional channels to its upper part, including 169, 173, and 177.

The splitting of the 5GHz spectrum ensures that the two narrower bands (5GHz-1 and 5GHz-2) do not overlap each other. So, here's the deal with traditional Tri-band (2.4GHz+ 5GHz+ 5GHz):

  • The good: While the total width of the 5GHz spectrum remains the same, we can use two portions of this band simultaneously, theoretically doubling its real-world bandwidth.
  • The bad: Each portion (5GHz-1 or 5GHz-2) has fewer channel-forming options, making it harder for them to use the 80MHz or 160MHz channel widths required for high bandwidth. Physically, the channel-width options are now more limited than when the entire 5GHz spectrum is used as a single band.
  • The bottom line: Limited bandwidth for each sub-5GHz band. In an area crowded with 5GHz Wi-Fi broadcasters, practically everywhere these days, this band-splitting practice likely adds little, if at all, in terms of extra real-world total bandwidth.

Since Wi-Fi 7 is new, the specifics of band-splitting in the 6GHz frequency are still unknown. But it should be similar in principle. The entire frequency is divided into two non-overlapping separate portions to host the upper and lower channels, allowing the use of two channels simultaneously.

That's the case with the BE95. It has to be.

Here are a couple of things to keep in mind:

  1. The 6GHz Wi-Fi frequency's total width is 1200MHz. If split in the middle, we'll get two 600MHz-wide sub-bands. Generally, the narrower the band, the less flexible it becomes in channel width.
  2. Wi-Fi 7's highest channel width is 320MHz -- narrower channels will reduce the performance by a factor of two. In a 6GHz + 6GHz split, each band will be wide enough for only one 320MHz channel. As a result, when there are multiple individual 6GHz broadcasters in close proximity, narrower channels (160MHz or lower) will be more readily available.
  3. By nature, with the current allowed broadcasting power, the 6GHz frequency has just about two-thirds of the 5GHz's effective range and object penetration -- it's not ideal in homes with lots of walls. To improve this, Wi-Fi 7 has the AFC feature that allows for additional broadcasting power to compensate. Wi-Fi 7 also has the MLO feature, allowing combining multiple bands into a single link, which will work well for wireless mesh backhauling.
  4. Currently, both AFC and MLO are not yet finalized. AFC won't be available until the end of 2023 or even early 2024. Nobody knows how it would work exactly.

Most vendors, including TP-Link, have told me that their current Wi-Fi 7 hardware will fully support the standard's features when they are available -- it's just a matter of firmware updates.

As you can imagine, due to the unfinished stage of Wi-Fi 7, the real-world usage of Deco BE95 (or any 6GHz+6GHz Wi-Fi 7 broadcaster) is more complicated than its Tri-band counterpart. For right now, we don't know how the 6GHz really works in the BE95.

For example, which channels specifically does each (of the two 6GHz bands) occupy? Will one of the bands work as the dedicated backhaul in a wireless mesh setup? (If so, its short range will be a problem.) Which portion -- upper, lower, or both -- will work in an MLO link? Those are some of the questions I asked TP-Link.

While waiting for the answers, with no clear idea as to when or if they would arrive, I decided to take matters into my own hands and took the BE95 out for a spin...

TP-Link Deco BE95: Presently a QRINO

As it turned out, TP-Link itself seemed to have been holding its breath: the Deco BE95's second 6GHz-2 band -- which includes the frequency's upper channels -- is not used for now. That's right! The Deco BE95 is currently a QRINO -- a Quad-band router in name only.

But before we get there, keep in mind that the Deco BE95, despite all the things I mentioned above, is a familiar mesh system.

TP-Link BE95: A familiar Deco set

Indeed, other than the complicated 6GHz, the Deco BE95 is identical to the BE85 in everything else. In fact, it's largely the same as any Deco set you've used. The whole product line shares the same firmware, settings, and features.

Available in a two-pack (for now), you can use any of the two units as the primary router to host an Internet connection. After that, plug the second unit in at a reasonable distance, and you'll get a mesh -- the two units are pre-synced

Optionally, and ideally, you can use a network cable to link them together via multi-Gigabit wired backhauling. In this case, you can place them farther apart -- like two ends of a large home -- and still get the best performance out of the mesh.

However, with wired backhauling, the idea of a second 6GHz band is somewhat irrelevant, as nothing beats wiring in networking.

The well-designed Deco app

Like the rest of the Deco family, you must use the Deco mobile app for setup and ongoing management.

You won't be able to get the mesh system up and running without a live Internet connection since you must connect to TP-Link's server first. In return, you can manage your home network on the phone at home or when out and about.

TP-Link and your privacy

Having to sign in with an account generally means your hardware always connects to the vendor. That translates into inherent privacy risks.

On this matter, the Hong Kong-based company offers this assurance:

"TP-Link takes privacy seriously and complies with U.S. policies to protect consumers."

TP-Link's Privacy Policy page

While managing your network via a third party is never a good idea, privacy is a matter of degree. Data collection varies vendor by vendor.

The Deco app is well-designed. In fact, it's one of the best-thought-out apps in all canned mesh systems I've tested. The app has gotten better over the years.

As a mobile app, it's more restrictive and not as in-depth as a full web user interface, available in TP-Link's Archer standalone router family. Still, it has all the standard network settings and a comparatively generous set of free features. These include Dynamic DNS (via a TP-Link's free host), port forwarding, VPN, QoS, Parental Controls, and so on.

TP Link Deco App Main Page TP Link Deco App
Over the years, the Deco mobile app has evolved into a robust mesh management solution. Among other things, you can use it to control multiple Deco networks, share access with friends/family, and have a good set of networking settings and features. Still, the app is limited compared to a traditional web user interface.

The app is also flexible. You can share the same account between multiple users or use it to handle multiple Deco networks. Within each network, you can quickly switch the primary router role to any of the Deco units or make the system work in the AP mode.

Additionally, those needing more can opt for the HomeShield Pro package, which costs $60/year after a 30-day trial and adds comprehensive router-level network protection.

Limited, basic Wi-Fi settings

On the downside, like the case of the BE85 and the rest of the Deco family, the BE95 has little Wi-Fi customization. It has the same Wi-Fi settings and number of SSIDs (network names) as the BE85.

Specifically, here's the breakdown of what you can do with the BE95's Wi-Fi options:

  1. A main SSID for the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands via Smart Connect. A couple of things to note about this network:

    • You can't separate these bands into two SSIDs, but you can turn either off, making the network exclusively 2.4GHz or 5GHz.
    • There is an option to make the 5GHz band operate in 80MHz, 160MHz (default), or the new 240MHz channel widths.
  2. A second SSID for the 6GHz band -- automatically takes the main SSID's name and adds the "_6GHz" suffix. You can change this name to anything you want, including the same as the main SSID.
  3. An optional third SSID with Wi-Fi 7's Multi-Link Operation (MLO) feature. This SSID automatically has the "_MLO" suffix, but you can also name it to your liking. A couple of things to note:
    • This SSID uses all three bands by default, but you can turn the 2.4GHz off to include only the 5GHz and 6GHz bands.
    • Wi-Fi 7 clients can connect to this SSID using two bands simultaneously to increase the bandwidth. Wi-Fi 6 devices can only use one band at a time.
    • This SSID only supports WPA3 encryption, which generally doesn't work with Wi-Fi 5 and older clients.
  4. Two optional Guest Network SSIDs, one for the 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands and the other for the 6GHz band. You can also name these networks to your liking as long as they are different from those used in #1, #2, or #3.
  5. An optional IoT Network SSID for the 2.4GHz band (default) or the 2.4GHz + 5GHz combo. This is practically just another isolated Guest network.
  6. You have the option to hide any of these SSIDs so that they won't appear on a device's Wi-Fi scan. But you'll need to enter them manually on a new device.

And this is where it gets interesting. In my experience, there was no mention of the Quad-band Deco BE95's second 6GHz band. Within the app, other than the model names, everything was virtually the same as in the case of the Tri-band BE85.

Curious, I decided to go beyond the app to find out more.

The limited web user interface and the dormant 6GHz-2 band

Like the case of all Deco hardware, the BE95 has a web user interface, available only after the initial setup process and accessible via its default IP, which is 192.168.68.1.

Besides firmware updates, this interface only shows the status of the mesh system. You cannot use it to change any settings, which is a shame.

It was through this interface that I discovered the disabled status of the BE95's 6GHz-2 band, as shown in the photo below. The band was turned off for all SSIDs, and there was no way to enable it.

In other words, as far as I can see, the Deco BE95's upper portion of the 6GHz band is not available to the user. It's there but only as a placeholder.

TP Link Deco BE95 Web Interface Network Map All ClientsTP Link Deco BE95 Web Interface 6GHz 2 disabled
The TP-Link Deco BE95's web user interface is limited, but it's where I found out the 6GHz-2 band, which occupied the upper part of the spectrum, to be disabled, at least for the fronthaul.

It seems TP-Link hasn't yet figured out how to use this band, considering the current status of Wi-Fi 7, which explains why it has been tight-lipped on the matter -- I first raised questions about the Deco BE95 months ago.

But it's safe to say that this portion of the 6GHz frequency will be turned on via firmware eventually.

TP-Link Deco BE95: Detail photos

TP-Link Deco BE95 Retail Box
The TP-Link Deco BE95's retail box

TP Link Deco BE95 has fancy packaging
Like the Deco BE85, the BE95 comes in fancy packaging.

TP Link Deco BE95 Ports
The TP-Link Deco BE95 mesh router is quite large but not huge. It includes four Multi-Gig ports; one is a 10GBASE-T/SFP+ combo port.

TP Link Deco BE95 2 pack topTP Link Deco BE95 Underside
The top of the 2-pack BE95 and the underside of a single unit.

TP Link Deco BE95 Connected TP Link Deco BE95 in Action 1
Here's the Decbo BE95 router unit in action. Note its color-changing status light.

TP-Link Deco BE95: Same same yet different performance

I tested the Deco BE95 over a long period, and for the most part, the experience was the same as what I had with the BE85 (when used as a 2-pack). After all, the quad-band mesh, for now, is very much a Tri-band one.

That is to say, a 2-pack Deco BE95 will likely make you happy if you live in a relatively large home with lots of Wi-Fi 6E or older clients. But you'll be disappointed if you want the justification for its extra cost compared to the BE85.

The two's performances -- in Wi-Fi, wired, and USB storage -- were similar, within the general margins of error. Considering the current stage of Wi-Fi 7, the lack of real clients, and the dormant 6GHz-2 band of the BE95, I decided not to publish separate performance charts. For now, you can use those of the BE85 to get an idea.

I plan to retest both when computer-based Wi-Fi 7 clients are available.

I did use the One Plus 11 5G, one of a few Wi-Fi 7 phone clients currently available, for anecdotal testing, and the experience was the same.

TP Link Deco BE95 Speed Test
The Wi-Fi 7-enabled One Plus 11 5G phone had a good connection to the Deco BE95 but still sustained slightly over 2Gbps out of a 10Gbps broadband connection.

Specifically, the phone could connect to the BE95 at negotiated speeds of over 4Gbps but sustained at slightly over 2Gbps out of a 10Gbps fiber-optic line. While that was not part of my standard test, the numbers showed the potential of Wi-Fi 7.

The phone connected at a slower speed when I originally tested it with the BE85, but that's likely because it was running an older Android version at the time. To be sure, for good measure, I retested it with the BE85 and got the same result this time around.

It's safe to say that the Deco BE95 and Deco BE85 will give you the same experience. The former has nothing on the latter, despite being more expensive.

A bit buggy, a little hot, a tad noisy

Like the case of the BE85, each unit of the Deco BE95 has an internal fan. While the fan at the satellite was mostly off, at the router, it was running almost constantly, producing a subtle humming sound loud enough to be a nuisance in a quiet bedroom.

And the fan is necessary since the router didn't run cool. I could feel hot air coming up when resting my hands on its top, and the router's chassis felt heated at all times. But the whole thing didn't seem alarmingly hot, and there was no thermal shutdown during my trial -- not even close.

Additionally, I found the Deco BE95 to be a bit buggy. It's hard to pinpoint what was wrong, but now and then, things didn't work right. Here are some examples of what I experienced:

  • When using the router as the mini NAS server, occasionally, I couldn't delete a file or folder in a network share, receiving an error as if another program was opening the file or folder, or the shared folder got briefly disconnected.
  • A few connected clients lost Internet access for no apparent reason until I manually disconnected and reconnected them. This didn't happen regularly or consistently.
  • The Deco app, at times, briefly showed that the satellite unit was off or disconnected, though it wasn't.

In all, nothing was major, and the BE95, for the most part, proved to be fast and reliable enough with existing Wi-Fi clients in my trial. Judging from my experience with previous Decos, you can expect things to be better via firmware updates.

TP-Link Deco BE95's Rating

7.8 out of 10
TP Link Deco BE95 Lying
Performance
8 out of 10
Features
7 out of 10
Design and Setup
9 out of 10
Value
7 out of 10

Pros

Dual 6GHz bands, four Multi-Gig ports with multi-Gigabit wired backhauling, including two 10Gbps with one being an RJ45/SWi-Fiombo

Wi-Fi 7 support; backward compatible with existing clients; excellent overall real-world performances;

Easy to use

Cons

No AFC (for now), Wi-Fi 7 is not yet fully certified; 6GHz-2 is currently not used

Can't be fully managed via the limited local web user interface; vendor-connected mobile app required; HomeShield Pro costs extra

Internal fan; runs a bit hot

Conclusion

The TP-Link Deco BE95 BE33000 Quad-Band mesh system seems rushed, even months after the initial availability. It's not ready for prime time simply because the Wi-Fi 7 standard itself is not.

While similar things can be said about the Deco BE85, the BE95's case is more affected by the new Wi-Fi standard's incomplete status. So much so that it temporarily functions as a Tri-band hardware, rendering itself a QRINO -- Quad-band router in name only. For now, the additional 6GHz band, the reason why it costs extra, is a nothing burger.

But even when Wi-Fi 7 becomes ready, and the mesh works fully as intended, splitting the 6GHz frequency into two separate bands makes little sense in real-world usage.

Specifically, if you truly want the best performance out of a Wi-Fi 7 mesh system, using wired backhauling is the only sure way. And on the front end, using two bands instead of one will likely reduce the bandwidth of each due to the fewer options on channel width.

So, the second 6GHz band probably has little positive impact.

In any case, we'll need to wait and see. And I do intend to go back and retest this system when appropriate. In the meantime, if you need a Wi-Fi 7 mesh system today -- if so, why? -- I'd recommend the Deco BE85 instead.

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  1. Hi, I am redoing my at home business internet network. I am trying to future proof my network. I run a business from a 3,000 square foot home with many devices. I have several offices and computers, tvs, ect all run on wifi and hardwire satellites currently. i know i want wifi 7 for the speed and future proof. I cant decide to get the orbi 970 system or the deco be95. i have read both of your write ups on both systems.. which one do you suggest?

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      • I have 3 rooms through out my home office that are hardwired. Things like my laptops, tablets, tvs, phones ect are wifi. My 6 PCs in the offices are hardwired. Im just looking to upgrade and future proof the wifi mesh here. i just cant decide to upgrade to the orbi 970 or deco be95 system

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        • You can’t because neither is suitable. Read my previous reply. Also make sure you actually read the reviews.

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      • I recently upgraded to 2 gig symetrical fiber, and, I get great download speeds, wired and wireless, but my uploads wired are 1 gig, and wireless alot less..Cox techs say they dont really have 2 gigs up yet, but the tech support people I speak with say thats not true, its my hardware..I have BE 95, 2.5 gig switches everywhere and cat 6 cables..any ideas what can be causing the slowdown?
        thank you!

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        • It’s likely your hardware, Michael, or the way you did the testing. Note that no Wi-Fi can sustain over Gig+, for now, so most of the time that’s around 1G. Wired devices needs to have Multi-Gig port, etc. More on testing in this post.

          Generally, when you have over Gigabit, things get complicated and you need to pay more attention to the details than to your expectations or assumptions. I speak from experience.

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          • understand completely, but the speeds I am referring to are wired speeds, not wifi..
            i’m testing on the deco app itself, which allegedly tests the speed right at the device port, so, if I am really being sent 2 gig up and down, shouldnt it show 2 gigs up when doing a wired test? it shows 2.35 gig down, so I think its reporting accurately..From my ONT, I am plugged into the 10 gig port on the deco when testing
            thanks!

  2. What would you buy for a 5 gig AT&T fiber connection? I’m looking for mesh, 6E, and at least one 5gig multi speed connection. I don’t mind paying a premium to get the most out of my internet connection. This router looks to fit the bill but it doesn’t sound like you’re overly fond of it.

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  3. This is more a general networking question than a question about this article.

    I have a large home with concrete walls. I put in a Netgear Orbi system 5 years ago. it worked okay for the longest time but recently started to give me more dead spots than before. Adding to that problem is wifi speeds dropped significantly. Going outside my room (where the main Orbi is located), my speeds drop to 1/10th where they were inside the room. 300 mbps drops to 30 and in the past it would drop from 300 to 100 outside the room but that was sufficient for my needs.

    Could I have too many devices using the Orbi now and that causing the drop off? I really haven’t changed much other than add more devices – 50 or so now. Could a router over time loose enough power on their radios to cause that significant of a speed drop? I have tried network optimization without luck.

    I know you will recommend that I do a wired backhaul but I have an issue with that. We have lots of creatures around here that will chew through the wiring. I do not have any space for another wire in existing conduit so that is out unless I increase the size of the project to running new conduit. Are you aware of any treatments I can use to make it so animals will not eat through the wire?

    I tried to use an Arris Surfboard mAX to see if WiFi6 would perform better than my WiFi 5 orbi but it didn’t. would setting up both mesh units and only having devices such as Amazon Echos and Android TV boxes to one and all PCs to the other help this issue?

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    • Having two mesh systems together will only make things worse. And yes, bandwidth is shared between devices, so the more the slower it gets. I think you already are aware of your situation. Maybe there’s a type of outdoor cable that’s tuff enough to deal with the critters.

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  4. Reading this more carefully, along with some links. Hopefully the FCC aligns β€œ6 GHz” with more logical frequency spacing. Technically 6 GHz is 6.000 to 6.999 GHz but they’ve already allotted 1200 MHz to it, it would be great if they made it 1280, then 2 320 MHz channels are available for the lower and upper ranges. Also since 6 GHz has 2/3 the range of 5 GHz, hopefully this in itself addresses some concern about crowding. (One can blame it for having less range, but then it’s less likely to interfere with your neighbor’s 6 GHz conversely). Regarding EasyMesh, do you happen to have any two EasyMesh devices you could try? Thanks again for all your efforts!

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    • Good analysis, Jess. We’ll see how it pans out.
      The only hardware I’ve had is the Netgear MK63 and MR83. And they didn’t work with each other the last time I tried, which was a while ago.

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  5. ive had the be 95 for almost 2 months now and love it..cant wait for the updates and some real wifi 7 peripherals

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  6. BE95 versus BE900? Looks like the BE900 splits the 5GHz band and the BE95 splits the 6GHz band…I also like that the BE900 allows for more customization (i.e. you can disable DHCP). I was going to get 2x BE900 but I suppose I could work around the “consumer” limitations of the BE95. What would your choice be between the two (I understand the BE85 and the BE800 are more economical choices)? Thanks!

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  7. Amazon lists the BE95 as first available since “December 31, 2022”. I prefer not to have two exact same model so I have been looking for a friend to split the two pack. Hopefully soon as Sonic may expand to his neighborhood, at which time he’ll need to upgrade his router.

    I still like/prefer the extra 6 GHz channel even though it’s not enabled, (yet). With MLO that can provide similar throughput as 10 Gbps ethernet. I can confirm that 6 GHz works reasonably well for backhaul in a 2 story house with decent (cemented) flooring on the 2nd floor, via GT-AXE16000 and GT-AXE11000.

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      • I did read please don’t take it the wrong way. I have been watching the WiFi 7 products, because even though I can find a 6E product that would complete my 10 Gbps backhaul, I would rather pay a little more for WiFi 7. I have seen the BE95 for sale on Amazon and BestBuy with delivery that can be as soon as the next day, but have seen them sell out….

        In this case unless you know some insider information about WiFi 7 that 6 GHz-2 is not going to be available ever, then the math is 33000-22000=11000 Mbps. This is 50% more than the BE85. For $100 each/$200 for the pair would you honestly want the BE85? I’m willing to wait for 6 GHz 2 to open up, besides the fact that the BE95 has been available for retail purchase as I mentioned, at least here in the US…

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        • Either you didn’t *read* or you had issues with reading comprehension. πŸ™‚

          Feel free to spend your money or time however you want. None of anyone’s business.

          I generally don’t take anything the wrong way. If I’m unsure, I’d ask for clarification.

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      • Thank you for sharing your Sonic experience! We pay more at my parents’ house for 1 Gig Cable Modem and at our house for 1 Gig Frontier Fiber than their base pricing for 10 Gig, in fact adding their phone line option for $10 would still be cheaper! We can only hope they reach our homes here…

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      • I habe been reading reviews for weeks and trying to decide. The BE95 will only be available in Europe from October, so an import might have been a costly option. Now I know I will not have to wait and can buy the BE85 which is sold here already.

        Thank you again for your valuable review and all the time you invest in your work.

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